EP28 Kat Pineiro | She’s Shy in Real Life… But Bold Online
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Kat Pineiro: The Shy Girl Behind "The Real Kitty Kat" Persona
Kat Pineiro reveals how she separates her shy real-life persona from her viral "Real Kitty Kat" presence and her secret to cracking the IG algorithm.
About this episode
We're talking about what's hotter: being desired or being paid, and it got me thinking about all the gossip and rumors that fly around in the celebrity news world. It’s like being an investigator sometimes, trying to figure out how people know you! This kind of trending discussion reminds me of the conversations you'd hear on vladtv or the breakfast club.. From Content Creation to Instagram growth hacks, this conversation pulls back the curtain on what it actually takes to stay relevant. If you’re building a brand online, or thinking about it, this is the real conversation.
Timestamps
- 02:10Shy in Real Life
- 04:15Starting Content Creation
- 06:40Being Open vs Being Present
- 09:05Alcohol Changes Everything
- 11:20Paid Attention vs Public Attention
- 14:05The Pressure to Post Daily
- 16:50Why Video Calls Are Hard
- 19:40Instagram vs TikTok
- 22:15How She Finds Trends
- 24:30Shadowban Frustration
- 26:05Trial Reels Strategy
- 28:10Why Basic Reels Go Viral
- 30:40Link in Bio Discovery Hack
- 33:20Persona vs Real Life
- 35:00Final Thoughts
[01:00:00:05 - 01:00:12:05] Speaker 1 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. I've got a fun guest today. You can find her on IG as the real kitty Kat. She's into modeling, fitness, and being a little bit naughty. Please welcome Kat Pinero.
[01:00:15:17 - 01:00:21:00] Speaker 1 Thank you, Kat, for being here today. How are you? Good.
[01:00:21:00 - 01:00:21:19] Speaker 2 Thank you. How are you?
[01:00:21:19 - 01:00:26:01] Speaker 1 I'm very good. I'm very good. Don't be nervous. I know it's your first podcast. It is.
[01:00:26:01 - 01:00:29:06] Speaker 3 Your voice went all, you know, very professional. No, let loose.
[01:00:29:06 - 01:00:30:21] Speaker 1 I'm here to have a good time.
[01:00:32:07 - 01:00:37:23] Speaker 1 So before we get started, give us a little bit, you know, let us know who the real kitty Kat is.
[01:00:39:02 - 01:00:46:20] Speaker 2 So I am an influencer on Instagram and I've been doing it for about five to six years.
[01:00:48:09 - 01:00:55:14] Speaker 2 It's something that I've always wanted to do. It's actually, I'm actually really shy, but I'm a whole different person.
[01:00:55:14 - 01:00:57:16] Speaker 5 When you're online, behind the camera.
[01:00:57:16 - 01:01:01:04] Speaker 2 Yeah. I have friends and when they find out, they're like, what?
[01:01:02:11 - 01:01:02:21] Speaker 2 Is that you?
[01:01:02:21 - 01:01:10:13] Speaker 3 But you know it. But I mean, you're super easy to talk to. So I don't get that vibe from you that you're
[01:01:10:13 - 01:01:21:20] Speaker 1 shy, but I do understand that sometimes you're like, you could be a little bit more reserved. I am. So you, I seen that you do some modeling for Donnie, Danny's. Donnie's devil.
[01:01:21:20 - 01:01:22:18] Speaker 2 Yeah. What's that?
[01:01:24:07 - 01:01:39:20] Speaker 2 I'm a fashion, he's a fashionista and he sells dresses and lingerie and bikini. And he's been doing fashion shows for a couple of years now. And he reached out to me through Instagram and so I've been modeling for him.
[01:01:39:20 - 01:01:40:11] Speaker 1 Oh wow.
[01:01:40:11 - 01:01:40:21] Speaker 2 Yeah.
[01:01:40:21 - 01:01:44:14] Speaker 1 Well, you looked really good on your videos that I've seen. Thank you. Thank you.
[01:01:45:20 - 01:01:51:09] Speaker 3 I love doing it. Do you? For someone who's shy. You don't seem shy when you're there.
[01:01:51:09 - 01:01:54:23] Speaker 2 That's all for sure. I can't do that at home. No, I get so shy.
[01:01:56:01 - 01:01:57:23] Speaker 1 But you can do it in front of a bunch of strangers, right?
[01:01:57:23 - 01:01:58:23] Speaker 2 But I can do it in front of a bunch of strangers.
[01:01:58:23 - 01:02:16:10] Speaker 1 That's funny because sometimes with like, with like our people, our friends, you know, we're like a completely different person. But I do find that like being online, you kind of get to be somebody else, but you still are kind of yourself. If that makes sense. You know what I mean?
[01:02:17:16 - 01:02:21:16] Speaker 1 So you do OF as well. Tell us how you got into that.
[01:02:24:00 - 01:02:25:20] Speaker 1 Before you start, that water's yours by the way.
[01:02:25:20 - 01:02:26:08] Speaker 2 Oh, okay.
[01:02:28:10 - 01:02:38:07] Speaker 2 Well, at first I just started doing Instagram and a little bit of TikTok. Then I saw girls doing OF and it caught my attention.
[01:02:39:15 - 01:02:47:16] Speaker 2 I'm even though I'm very shy, I'm a very like sexual person. And so I said, why not give it a try?
[01:02:47:16 - 01:02:48:09] Speaker 5 Why not?
[01:02:48:09 - 01:02:51:14] Speaker 2 And I started doing it and I love it.
[01:02:53:01 - 01:02:55:11] Speaker 2 Being able to do it and not have...
[01:02:58:13 - 01:02:59:16] Speaker 2 How do I say it?
[01:03:03:08 - 01:03:24:02] Speaker 2 I don't know. I don't know how to explain it. I like to be sexual like on my own and have like, I guess people watching you, but not physically be there. Yes. Yes. I don't know. It's a little... I feel like I need to be myself doing it on my own than doing it for somebody. Or just having somebody there.
[01:03:24:02 - 01:03:29:20] Speaker 1 But you say you're a sexual person, but when you're with somebody, do they see that sexualness?
[01:03:29:20 - 01:03:31:16] Speaker 2 Yes, they do.
[01:03:33:19 - 01:03:44:17] Speaker 2 I feel like I could be a little bit more sexual on my own, just because I feel like somebody could be criticizing how I am. So I'm conscious of that.
[01:03:46:15 - 01:03:49:11] Speaker 2 But yeah, I mean, especially when I'm drinking pretty well.
[01:03:50:13 - 01:03:50:21] Speaker 2 Same.
[01:03:50:21 - 01:03:58:08] Speaker 5 Same. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I get a little drink, I'm like, "Hey there, buddy. How you doing? I want that side of you more often."
[01:03:59:18 - 01:04:06:04] Speaker 5 Yeah, I know. I've been quiet though. I haven't been drinking for a minute. So maybe I need a glass of wine. Hey, babe?
[01:04:06:04 - 01:04:09:11] Speaker 4 And she... Kat brought wine, so maybe I can open the bottle.
[01:04:09:11 - 01:04:12:18] Speaker 3 Maybe, maybe, maybe. It's still too early.
[01:04:14:18 - 01:04:22:16] Speaker 1 The thing about what you say, how you could be more sexual when you're doing it online.
[01:04:24:00 - 01:04:40:00] Speaker 1 When I go on live, or when you go on live, or when you're talking to people on OF, or stuff like that, you know that they're there because they want to see you. It's not like you're... Okay, let's say you go on a platform where you go live and anybody can come in and out.
[01:04:41:04 - 01:05:00:01] Speaker 1 Then it's different, because then you might get criticized. I've done some lives for companies where anybody can come in, right? Oh, do I like her? No, okay. So then people could be kind of mean. But when you know that they're there to just see you on OF, they're literally paying to be there, then you're like, "Okay, let loose, let loose, let it go."
[01:05:00:01 - 01:05:00:20] Speaker 2 Yeah, you're just comfortable.
[01:05:00:20 - 01:05:01:09] Speaker 1 Yeah.
[01:05:01:09 - 01:05:04:09] Speaker 2 And you don't even know them. You just feel comfortable.
[01:05:04:09 - 01:05:14:11] Speaker 1 Well, some of them I know more than others. I don't know about you. It depends on some fans. Not in real life. Of course, yes. Some fans more than others.
[01:05:14:11 - 01:05:28:02] Speaker 2 Yes, there's some people that I do know that have signed up that when they comment on my reels or my posts or even DMs, you kind of have that connection with them already.
[01:05:28:02 - 01:05:38:01] Speaker 1 They're always rooting for you. I have three, four, five people, beautiful as always, or keep it up. That definitely helps.
[01:05:39:04 - 01:05:47:00] Speaker 1 So you have IG, you have TikTok, and you have OF. Do you have any other platforms that people can find you on?
[01:05:47:00 - 01:05:57:02] Speaker 2 I do not. I do not. I've actually, I just started, I just thought about Sex Panther. I just started that.
[01:05:57:02 - 01:06:01:16] Speaker 1 Is that the site where you got to be on your phone and they can just call you and whatever? Yes.
[01:06:01:16 - 01:06:08:08] Speaker 2 So you have the option to be on for 12 hours, if I'm not mistaken, phone calls and video calls.
[01:06:08:08 - 01:06:09:03] Speaker 1 Yeah.
[01:06:10:16 - 01:06:20:14] Speaker 2 It's very different from OF because in order for people to find you, you have to be constantly posting on their feed.
[01:06:22:11 - 01:06:30:08] Speaker 2 The people that find you, they generate it off of there. It's not off of Instagram or TikTok, which is great because you don't have to go and promote yourself anywhere else.
[01:06:31:10 - 01:06:40:10] Speaker 2 But there's a ranking. So if you're not posting every single day, you won't be up there in that ranking. You'll be at the very bottom and then very little people will reach out to you.
[01:06:40:10 - 01:06:42:00] Speaker 1 Yeah. And how's that been going for you?
[01:06:42:00 - 01:06:54:10] Speaker 2 It's going all right. Yeah. I feel like there's girls that have said this pretty easy. Yeah. I don't know. For me, maybe it's a little tricky, I guess. I'm learning it as well. So maybe that's why. But I think I've only been on it for about a
[01:06:54:10 - 01:06:58:23] Speaker 1 month or so. And you take video calls and just regular calls?
[01:06:58:23 - 01:07:11:12] Speaker 2 Nobody has actually done that. Okay. Because you can't obviously call, they call you or video. So so far, nothing. It's just been messaging, sending pictures or videos.
[01:07:11:12 - 01:07:25:23] Speaker 1 That's about it. Are you comfortable doing video calls? Because I feel like that's one thing from the get go. Even sometimes where I'm like, I can make so much money. I can't bring myself to do it. So I wanted to know your take on that.
[01:07:25:23 - 01:07:36:23] Speaker 2 So every single time I've not given that option for video. I want to. But then I'm like, how do I even do this? What are they going to ask?
[01:07:38:06 - 01:07:46:13] Speaker 2 What am I going to do? How do I even start it? I don't know. So I haven't given that option to people. Just phone call. That's a piece of cake for video.
[01:07:46:13 - 01:07:47:18] Speaker 3 I'm like, oh, I don't know.
[01:07:47:18 - 01:07:58:21] Speaker 1 But even though I've been doing this for quite some time, I still block sometimes and don't know what to say. Or I'll get a message and I'm like, if I'm not feeling sexual or whatever, how do I respond to that?
[01:08:00:05 - 01:08:01:13] Speaker 3 That does happen to me.
[01:08:01:13 - 01:08:13:15] Speaker 1 It's not easy. I feel like some people could like, you know, they have a switch and it's like, okay, like I'm sexual right now and then they can turn it off at any moment. But that's not me. Like I got to still be, you know, in a vibe or something.
[01:08:13:15 - 01:08:16:19] Speaker 2 I'm the same way. I have to be in the mood.
[01:08:16:19 - 01:08:17:05] Speaker 1 Yeah.
[01:08:18:07 - 01:08:25:06] Speaker 1 Which platform do you prefer creating content for? Instagram. Yeah. And tell us why.
[01:08:27:10 - 01:08:32:16] Speaker 2 TikTok is family oriented. So are there a lot stricter? True. I think it's a little bit harder.
[01:08:34:23 - 01:08:35:08] Speaker 2 Instagram.
[01:08:36:14 - 01:08:51:04] Speaker 2 I mean, that's what everybody uses. So that's where I have most of my followers as well. It's mostly active on there. And I just think their content, what people create, I think is so much better. Yeah. So much more fun. And I love creating content. It's a lot of work.
[01:08:51:04 - 01:08:53:02] Speaker 1 I was getting to that. A lot of work.
[01:08:53:02 - 01:08:54:12] Speaker 2 Yeah. But I like it.
[01:08:54:12 - 01:09:05:22] Speaker 1 I love it. How do you get inspired to, you know, because we know that reels are obviously better than like pictures. How do you come up with ideas to, you know, post your content?
[01:09:05:22 - 01:09:11:03] Speaker 2 I'm constantly on my feed, just like swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe, and I have different folders.
[01:09:11:03 - 01:09:11:16] Speaker 3 Okay.
[01:09:11:16 - 01:09:26:01] Speaker 2 Do you? Yeah. I have different folders, like ones for like funny, savage, sports. Like I have just different categories. Okay. So whenever I want to create that, I go to that folder. I'm like, okay, let me see what I can get out of that.
[01:09:26:01 - 01:09:54:13] Speaker 1 That's funny. I need to be a little bit more organized. I, I'm like, okay, what's trending? I don't even know what the fuck is trending. You know what I mean? Like people by the time I realize it's trending, it's not trending anymore. You know, and sometimes you get some back and it happens to me sometimes, you know, sometimes like I missed, I missed the SpongeBob, you know, era to do it now that I've mastered the dance, you know, now I can't freaking go. Am I posted? Maybe I'm going to do that today. I'm just gonna.
[01:09:55:15 - 01:09:55:23] Speaker 1 Okay.
[01:09:55:23 - 01:09:59:15] Speaker 2 You know, it's still a thing. Not as popular, but it's still a thing.
[01:09:59:15 - 01:10:00:09] Speaker 1 It's still a thing, right?
[01:10:00:09 - 01:10:04:22] Speaker 2 I mean, I think if I'm not mistaken, started on TikTok and then it transferred over to Instagram.
[01:10:04:22 - 01:10:11:06] Speaker 1 So every trend that you see on Instagram always starts on TikTok. Really? All the time.
[01:10:11:06 - 01:10:11:19] Speaker 2 I didn't know that.
[01:10:11:19 - 01:10:22:15] Speaker 1 Yeah. So if you want to find like things that are trending for real, you got to start with, with TikTok because, um, that's what, uh, Tony Oskitz, right? Babe had told us.
[01:10:23:15 - 01:10:48:06] Speaker 1 He had told us that, uh, everything that you see on IG is always like three, three weeks after like TikTok actually posted it. So that's what happens. I'll find something. I'm like, Oh, this guy like a million views. And then I was too late and you already saw it on TikTok. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so do you feel like you're more yourself online or offline?
[01:10:51:11 - 01:10:52:04] Speaker 1 Or a mix of both?
[01:10:55:13 - 01:11:17:10] Speaker 2 I think a mix of both because the persona I give online, I could definitely give that vibe with maybe close, like really close runs or maybe like a partner. If I'm with a partner, um,
[01:11:19:04 - 01:11:28:09] Speaker 2 they see that side of me. But not as much on social, like I'll give a little bit, but then I give it all on social media.
[01:11:29:12 - 01:11:34:03] Speaker 2 I don't know. But they're like, why do you do that? I'm like, I don't know. I just put myself on
[01:11:34:03 - 01:11:36:08] Speaker 3 social media. When you like
[01:11:36:08 - 01:12:03:17] Speaker 1 put your camera on a tripod and press play, sometimes it just like, you know, and sometimes I feel like when it comes to me, I, I, I'm like too sexy for the camera sometimes. You know what I mean? I'm going to be like, Oh, and I've been told by my husband, you can't post that on Instagram. Like that's way too sexy. If you're in long way, there's rules. Yeah. Yeah. And, um, and so I totally get that because I'm, I'm, I'm the same way.
[01:12:05:03 - 01:12:10:13] Speaker 1 How do you deal with getting a shadow band on Instagram? Does that ever happen to you?
[01:12:10:13 - 01:12:22:17] Speaker 2 Oh yeah. That's happened to me several times. And like you said, it's sometimes I get upset because you see other girls doing it and you're like how, or they do it worse. And then you're like, how is that even possible?
[01:12:22:17 - 01:12:29:10] Speaker 1 No, but there's girls literally showing their nipples. Yeah. They wear a sheer top and then you're like,
[01:12:29:10 - 01:12:30:04] Speaker 4 that's disgusting.
[01:12:30:04 - 01:12:32:03] Speaker 1 It's so gross. Right.
[01:12:32:03 - 01:12:37:08] Speaker 3 Um, and then you're just there like showing a little bit of booty and you freaking get
[01:12:37:08 - 01:12:52:21] Speaker 1 flagged and it's like, you either got to pay somebody, right? I've never actually had to do that. No, we've never done it either because like, yeah, I'm not paying that much money. Um, we just recently, like, I don't know about you, but we removed our link from our bio.
[01:12:52:21 - 01:12:53:18] Speaker 2 Really?
[01:12:53:18 - 01:12:55:21] Speaker 1 Yeah. Are you in the green with your link there?
[01:12:55:21 - 01:12:56:13] Speaker 2 Yeah.
[01:12:56:13 - 01:13:00:08] Speaker 1 You can, you get, um, you get put on the explore page
[01:13:00:08 - 01:13:07:22] Speaker 2 and stuff lately. I've been doing really good on Instagram. Yeah. Thank God. I think too, it's because I've been really consistent.
[01:13:07:22 - 01:13:08:11] Speaker 1 Okay.
[01:13:08:11 - 01:13:14:21] Speaker 2 I've been trying to create content almost every day and I honestly, you know, it's helped me trial reels.
[01:13:14:21 - 01:13:17:18] Speaker 1 Okay. So what do you need to get on that, babe? Where are we supposed to do it?
[01:13:17:18 - 01:13:20:09] Speaker 4 Yeah, but we have to, there's a lot to talk about.
[01:13:20:09 - 01:13:24:06] Speaker 1 Okay. Okay. So trial reels definitely is.
[01:13:25:06 - 01:13:30:22] Speaker 1 So what is that exactly for people who don't know? Cause I mean, to be honest, I still don't know. I just heard it and I heard that we need to do it.
[01:13:30:22 - 01:14:04:06] Speaker 2 So basically if you're not sure if your content is going to do well on Instagram, they say to throw it out on trial reels and it throws it out to your non followers. Okay. So none of your followers see that. Oh, none of your followers see it. It's just followers, people that are going through Instagram feed and they come across your, your page. So it throws it out to non followers. If it hits well, which they say after about 10 to 15 K, you should move it over to your
[01:14:05:06 - 01:14:06:02] Speaker 2 main profile.
[01:14:06:02 - 01:14:09:04] Speaker 1 Like, Oh yeah. Okay. That's interesting.
[01:14:09:04 - 01:14:13:07] Speaker 2 And it's been working really. Yeah. It's been doing really good.
[01:14:13:07 - 01:14:15:16] Speaker 1 And you can do as many trial reels as you want.
[01:14:15:16 - 01:14:20:04] Speaker 2 They say to throw it out. You don't even have to like be perfect with it. Just throw it out there.
[01:14:20:04 - 01:14:20:16] Speaker 6 Okay.
[01:14:20:16 - 01:14:28:11] Speaker 2 I can't do that. I'm very like, so I'm here like trying to make it as perfect as I can. And then I throw it out there. Okay. Um,
[01:14:31:02 - 01:14:41:19] Speaker 2 and that's what I've been doing. And that's been helping your page grow. Yeah. So on, if you look at my Instagram, there's this, the first, um, your first picture, my
[01:14:41:19 - 01:14:45:10] Speaker 1 first picture that's pinned. Yes. I saw you have like 6,000 likes on that.
[01:14:45:10 - 01:14:56:09] Speaker 2 Yeah. But I put a picture, but it's actually a real and the real is the most, I don't even know. Wait, is it a real? It is a review. Tap on it. Is a real.
[01:14:56:09 - 01:15:01:06] Speaker 1 Oh, okay. But then when they checked it, they saw the picture, they see the picture, but when you tap
[01:15:01:06 - 01:15:16:14] Speaker 2 on it's a real and it's just literally me doing this at the gym and it goes on to a next to the next part. But the, the video, the real is so like. Basic. Very basic, very simple. And I got almost a million views.
[01:15:16:14 - 01:15:48:14] Speaker 1 I'm like, how in the world? Honestly, sometimes we overthink it. Yeah. You know, there's no science behind it. No, it's just, if it's going to work, it's going to work. Yeah. Just like with, with videos, when we post videos on like free sites and stuff, I'm like, yo, this one's going to be so good because we took the time and you know, we made sure that, you know, we had the perfect lighting, we edited it perfectly, this and that. And then I'm like, is it like that's all I got. And then sometimes a video that's like, man, gets like two, three, 4 million views on, on pH.
[01:15:48:14 - 01:15:49:16] Speaker 2 Yeah. And you're like, how?
[01:15:49:16 - 01:15:58:03] Speaker 1 Okay. I'm definitely going to try that. But that picture is a sexy picture. So it's definitely people clicked on that. And then, but you still got,
[01:15:58:03 - 01:16:17:02] Speaker 2 cause it kind of like reels them in. Yeah. Well, it's funny when I first released it to trial, I didn't have that profile picture on there. It was actually the real itself. Yeah. And then I went over to my grid is when I put that profile, put that picture cover photo, kind of like actually like look aesthetically nice on my Instagram.
[01:16:18:02 - 01:16:23:15] Speaker 2 Um, not for any other reason. Um, but it went, that's crazy.
[01:16:24:16 - 01:16:28:16] Speaker 1 Yeah. And then when you try to recreate that, you're not going to get the same thing, right?
[01:16:28:16 - 01:16:42:03] Speaker 2 It's funny. They say when a trial, real goals viral, they say to recreate the same exact one. Okay. And then throw it out again. And it happened to me, I think three times and I did the same exact real.
[01:16:42:03 - 01:16:43:02] Speaker 6 Uh-huh.
[01:16:43:02 - 01:16:46:07] Speaker 2 Um, I tweaked it a little bit and it went viral again.
[01:16:47:07 - 01:16:47:12] Speaker 2 Yeah.
[01:16:47:12 - 01:16:48:18] Speaker 4 It's like going fishing, babe.
[01:16:48:18 - 01:16:50:00] Speaker 2 Yeah.
[01:16:50:00 - 01:16:55:05] Speaker 4 Like you, you put a worm on the hook. You go fishing. If that worm was good, you keep putting the same warm.
[01:16:55:05 - 01:17:09:16] Speaker 2 And then there's times where I put bikini reels, like I'll do reels and bikini or lingerie. And I'm like, why didn't that? Yeah. Viral. I'm like half a kid. Why did that work? Yeah. Yeah. So there's definitely, I don't, I'm going to
[01:17:09:16 - 01:17:32:11] Speaker 1 start being a nun on IG because honestly, like, yes, I'm going to put like a bikini pic and it does super well. And then, you know, you're like, okay, well let me do it again. And then it doesn't. Yeah. And then I get shadow band and I'm like, fuck this shit. I'm a nun and you want to see more, you know, you got to find my link now because, because it's not even on my IG.
[01:17:32:11 - 01:17:36:22] Speaker 2 That used to happen to me, but I noticed it happened to me with link tree for some reason.
[01:17:36:22 - 01:17:41:11] Speaker 1 We've tried every single one. Which one are you using right now?
[01:17:41:11 - 01:17:47:04] Speaker 2 So right now, um, I'm with like a agency.
[01:17:47:04 - 01:17:47:15] Speaker 1 Okay.
[01:17:47:15 - 01:17:49:15] Speaker 2 That, I don't know.
[01:17:49:15 - 01:17:55:02] Speaker 1 Yeah. We'll cut that part out. Don't say that. Yeah. Um, which, do you know which one it is that they're using?
[01:17:55:02 - 01:17:56:01] Speaker 2 They created their own.
[01:17:57:10 - 01:17:58:12] Speaker 1 They created their own. Okay.
[01:17:58:12 - 01:18:01:08] Speaker 2 Yeah. So basically if you're not with them, you can't have, okay.
[01:18:01:08 - 01:18:14:09] Speaker 1 We'll cut that part out guys. Okay. Where I asked her about which one she's using. What minutes we're at. Cause you don't want people knowing you have an agency. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:18:14:09 - 01:18:18:18] Speaker 2 Yeah. But before that I was actually using, um, linked me.
[01:18:18:18 - 01:18:19:09] Speaker 1 Yeah.
[01:18:19:09 - 01:18:21:19] Speaker 2 And I didn't have a problem with that one.
[01:18:21:19 - 01:18:27:07] Speaker 1 We've used everyone that you can possibly think of.
[01:18:27:07 - 01:18:27:16] Speaker 6 Okay.
[01:18:27:16 - 01:18:45:14] Speaker 1 We've had issues, but now we're trying to figure out a way because my followers on OF have gone down since I don't have the link tree, the link and most of our traffic, right? Babe is from, is from, uh, Instagram.
[01:18:45:14 - 01:18:48:04] Speaker 4 Yeah. Most of our traffic is Instagram and pH.
[01:18:48:04 - 01:18:57:20] Speaker 2 Yeah. Do you know if it's, are they giving you an actual, like it's actually the link or you're like, you're, are they letting you know it's the link or you're assuming?
[01:18:57:20 - 01:19:03:20] Speaker 4 So I've, I've worked on that. I've tried so many different links. So I tried link tree link.me, all beacons, whatever.
[01:19:05:02 - 01:19:18:19] Speaker 4 And I couldn't figure out why I tried. So I tried to change my bio, remove emojis, change all the posts. I did change the profile picture, all that. Turns out it was my link. They don't tell you, right?
[01:19:18:19 - 01:19:19:11] Speaker 2 No, they don't.
[01:19:19:11 - 01:19:24:03] Speaker 4 And then at the end there, I changed my link to the YouTube link instead of the link tree on my bio. And boom.
[01:19:25:08 - 01:19:27:16] Speaker 4 Now we, we show up in the discovery page.
[01:19:27:16 - 01:19:32:00] Speaker 2 Cause that happened to me a lot at the beginning with link tree.
[01:19:32:00 - 01:19:32:13] Speaker 1 Yeah.
[01:19:32:13 - 01:19:41:10] Speaker 2 I took it down for a while. I, like I said, I changed the profile and everything. And for some reason now I don't have a problem.
[01:19:41:10 - 01:19:46:03] Speaker 4 Okay. Well, that's good. So like I, so it's been a month about, I'm going to try to change it back and see what happens.
[01:19:46:03 - 01:19:47:07] Speaker 2 That's what I did.
[01:19:47:07 - 01:19:55:15] Speaker 4 And then, you know, but then it's like, you never know whenever the, the, the bots, the Instagram bots are going to scan your, your, your Instagram page. And then, you know,
[01:19:55:15 - 01:19:58:13] Speaker 2 I do know certain emojis triggered, triggered. Yeah.
[01:19:58:13 - 01:20:03:02] Speaker 1 That's why I told you I'm a nun now. I don't put nothing even sometimes.
[01:20:03:02 - 01:20:05:08] Speaker 4 Even that's too sexual now being a nun.
[01:20:05:08 - 01:20:25:01] Speaker 1 Yeah. I'll be a sexy nun. Um, yeah, even an emoji, like the, the naughty one, you know, the one that like looks like he's smiling on the side or whatever, like even with your captions, you have to be careful. And you know, he gives me shit if I, you know, I get in trouble, which is fine. I understand.
[01:20:25:01 - 01:20:26:04] Speaker 4 I'm going to spank you.
[01:20:26:04 - 01:20:26:16] Speaker 1 Yeah.
[01:20:26:16 - 01:20:31:05] Speaker 3 I get in trouble too. When I do things, I'm not supposed to. Yeah. So it's just like, I
[01:20:31:05 - 01:20:34:02] Speaker 5 didn't mean to do that. I'm sorry. You know?
[01:20:34:02 - 01:20:41:06] Speaker 1 Oh boy. All right. So, um, on your OF, uh, let our viewers know what kind of content do you post?
[01:20:43:06 - 01:20:45:10] Speaker 2 I post a little bit of everything.
[01:20:48:09 - 01:20:53:18] Speaker 2 Um, laundry, uh, bikini, um, dancing,
[01:20:55:12 - 01:21:01:08] Speaker 2 working, you know, the usual. It's just one, it's just solo. Just solo. I just do solo.
[01:21:01:08 - 01:21:03:22] Speaker 1 Okay. So no boys there.
[01:21:03:22 - 01:21:06:06] Speaker 2 No boys, no boys. Just solo.
[01:21:06:06 - 01:21:10:08] Speaker 1 Why not? Yeah. Nice. Nice. Just solo. Very good.
[01:21:12:03 - 01:21:16:05] Speaker 1 If you weren't doing any content at all, what do you think that you would be doing?
[01:21:20:02 - 01:21:21:02] Speaker 2 Like if I wasn't on social media,
[01:21:21:02 - 01:21:23:07] Speaker 1 if you weren't on social media, what would you do?
[01:21:23:07 - 01:21:25:14] Speaker 2 Uh, labor and delivery nurse. Really?
[01:21:26:14 - 01:21:29:13] Speaker 2 Oh, it's something I've always said since I was a little girl.
[01:21:29:13 - 01:21:36:13] Speaker 1 Really? Yeah. No way. No, I would not be able to do that. Yeah. You don't have like your stomach, stomach doesn't turn upside down.
[01:21:36:13 - 01:21:36:22] Speaker 2 No.
[01:21:36:22 - 01:21:38:06] Speaker 1 Really? Yeah.
[01:21:39:16 - 01:21:42:12] Speaker 1 The older I get, the more sensitive I am to blood.
[01:21:42:12 - 01:21:43:07] Speaker 2 Really?
[01:21:43:07 - 01:21:43:19] Speaker 1 Yeah.
[01:21:43:19 - 01:21:46:10] Speaker 2 Well, if it's done to me, I don't even look.
[01:21:46:10 - 01:21:46:23] Speaker 1 Yeah.
[01:21:46:23 - 01:21:54:01] Speaker 2 But I can look at other people. Really? Yeah. You're like, if it's not me, I don't give a shit. When I get, I'm like, is it in?
[01:21:55:09 - 01:21:57:19] Speaker 3 I literally, is it in? That's me.
[01:21:57:19 - 01:22:06:22] Speaker 1 Oh my God. That is so funny. Oh, that, that definitely would be like a nice rewarding job to have because you get to see like life. Yeah. Right.
[01:22:08:11 - 01:22:10:04] Speaker 1 Wow. That's very interesting.
[01:22:11:09 - 01:22:11:19] Speaker 2 Completely obvious.
[01:22:11:19 - 01:22:13:08] Speaker 3 Yeah, completely. Right.
[01:22:14:20 - 01:22:16:10] Speaker 3 Imagine you become a nurse and then
[01:22:16:10 - 01:22:19:07] Speaker 1 delivery room. What did you do prior to this? I used to do a web.
[01:22:20:15 - 01:22:22:07] Speaker 1 Now I've settled down, you know?
[01:22:24:07 - 01:22:37:14] Speaker 1 That's funny. All right. I'm going to ask you a series of fun questions. Okay. So you give me an answer and you tell me a quick why. Okay. Okay. So what is more exhausting? Bad dates or bad subscribers?
[01:22:40:08 - 01:22:41:23] Speaker 1 Bad dates. And tell us why.
[01:22:44:15 - 01:22:47:21] Speaker 3 I don't know why, but I mean,
[01:22:48:23 - 01:23:00:18] Speaker 3 you can block the subscribers. You can block the subscribers. Okay. I had a date. You're there. You're there. You have to like tell your friends, text me and say I have an emergency.
[01:23:00:18 - 01:23:02:03] Speaker 6 Just call me right now. Call me.
[01:23:02:03 - 01:23:03:07] Speaker 3 SOS.
[01:23:05:04 - 01:23:08:18] Speaker 1 Have you ever blocked someone and felt immediate peace?
[01:23:10:20 - 01:23:14:14] Speaker 1 Oh yeah. Yeah. Do you mind telling us a story? You don't have to give us any names.
[01:23:15:16 - 01:23:15:20] Speaker 1 Um,
[01:23:18:17 - 01:23:20:02] Speaker 1 I guess. She's like, I blocked too many people.
[01:23:20:02 - 01:23:22:03] Speaker 2 Yeah. I took a lot of guys.
[01:23:22:03 - 01:23:24:03] Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah. Blocking is like your sports.
[01:23:24:03 - 01:23:33:12] Speaker 2 Yeah. I just block a lot of guys. They think that they could say all kinds of things to you and we're okay with it or not okay with it. Yeah.
[01:23:35:05 - 01:23:39:09] Speaker 2 So I just blocked them. Yeah. You know, I've also I blocked friends.
[01:23:39:09 - 01:23:40:04] Speaker 1 Yeah.
[01:23:40:04 - 01:23:42:06] Speaker 2 And that I'm like, Oh, that's also good.
[01:23:44:06 - 01:23:47:11] Speaker 5 Blocked. Yeah. Um, what's hotter
[01:23:47:11 - 01:23:51:13] Speaker 1 being desired or being paid?
[01:23:53:14 - 01:23:54:04] Speaker 2 Being desired.
[01:23:54:04 - 01:23:55:23] Speaker 5 Oh yeah. I'm being paid.
[01:23:57:07 - 01:24:03:14] Speaker 2 I mean, I'm not being paid, but yeah. I think being desired more for me.
[01:24:03:14 - 01:24:08:04] Speaker 5 Yeah, obviously we're here to interview you and I'm just, I'm just in the background talking.
[01:24:09:04 - 01:24:11:13] Speaker 5 Um, um, there was a hold on.
[01:24:11:13 - 01:24:18:22] Speaker 1 We're going to cut this part because there was a question that, that I had written down and that I want to say after what she said.
[01:24:21:00 - 01:24:22:01] Speaker 5 Mmm.
[01:24:22:01 - 01:24:22:22] Speaker 6 Where'd it go?
[01:24:25:20 - 01:24:26:01] Speaker 6 Hey.
[01:24:28:10 - 01:24:29:07] Speaker 4 You're doing super good cat.
[01:24:30:13 - 01:24:31:20] Speaker 2 Oh, thank you.
[01:24:31:20 - 01:24:52:22] Speaker 1 Yeah. Uh, okay. There it is. All right. Mmm. Do you feel like people because of what? Ooh, something's in my cut that restart. Um, so when you said about people thinking that they can say whatever they want, do you feel like people confuse access to creators, uh, with intimacy?
[01:24:56:15 - 01:24:59:07] Speaker 1 Say the question again. Repeat the question, please.
[01:25:00:09 - 01:25:11:12] Speaker 1 Do you feel like people confuse access with intimacy? So just because they have access to us that that equals intimacy.
[01:25:12:13 - 01:25:14:11] Speaker 2 Yeah. And I think they think they have the right
[01:25:14:11 - 01:25:22:09] Speaker 1 to do and say, and say whatever they want. Yeah. Yeah. Totally not the vibes. Um, and, uh,
[01:25:22:09 - 01:25:26:00] Speaker 4 I can't even say what I want when I'm with my wife alone. So imagine online.
[01:25:28:16 - 01:25:39:00] Speaker 3 If you don't, I'm going to bite my tongue here, baby. I'm going to bite my tongue here. Let me not remind you a conversation we had
[01:25:39:00 - 01:25:43:15] Speaker 5 about putting people down. You put me down there, buddy. Sorry. Sorry.
[01:25:43:15 - 01:25:47:09] Speaker 3 I love you boo.
[01:25:49:02 - 01:25:57:08] Speaker 1 All right. This is like a question that everybody loves to hear. Uh, have, what is the cringiest or like craziest? DM you've ever received
[01:25:57:08 - 01:25:59:19] Speaker 2 or
[01:25:59:19 - 01:26:14:05] Speaker 1 like somebody recognizing you or just anything that you're like, Oh, she like made you look at your phone twice, you know?
[01:26:16:02 - 01:26:28:16] Speaker 2 No, I can't think of it. I'm sure it's happened plenty of times. Just not on the spot. I can't think of it on the spot. Now I'm like,
[01:26:28:16 - 01:26:31:15] Speaker 1 if it comes back to you or
[01:26:31:15 - 01:26:33:10] Speaker 4 what's the craziest DM you've gotten.
[01:26:34:10 - 01:26:42:08] Speaker 1 Doesn't necessarily have to be cringy. Just like, or, you know, I don't know. Somebody said, Hey, um,
[01:26:43:20 - 01:26:45:21] Speaker 1 I know you or they don't tell you who they are.
[01:26:45:21 - 01:26:57:08] Speaker 2 That's happened to me quite a few times that they know me. And then I'm here like a spy and an investigator trying to figure out, how do you know me? Who are you? And I go on their page and start scrolling.
[01:26:58:10 - 01:27:12:02] Speaker 2 Um, it's happened to me where it's been a couple of like high schooler friends. Okay. And I've then in the end I'm like block block because I know those people still talk to, um, common friends of mine. Okay. So I ended up blocking them.
[01:27:12:02 - 01:27:12:06] Speaker 1 Yeah.
[01:27:12:06 - 01:27:14:00] Speaker 2 But it's just these perverted guys.
[01:27:14:00 - 01:27:17:17] Speaker 1 Yeah. So your friends don't know what you do.
[01:27:17:17 - 01:27:21:17] Speaker 2 So I only have two friends. I know what I mean.
[01:27:21:17 - 01:27:22:01] Speaker 1 More than me.
[01:27:22:01 - 01:27:25:16] Speaker 2 Which is my best friend.
[01:27:25:16 - 01:27:26:20] Speaker 4 We don't have any more friends,
[01:27:26:20 - 01:27:33:05] Speaker 2 but she knows I'm capable of it. She knows I'm crazy. So she sees me. She's like, yeah, I could have known. I would have known it would have.
[01:27:33:05 - 01:27:34:11] Speaker 5 I could guess it. Right.
[01:27:34:11 - 01:27:34:21] Speaker 2 Exactly.
[01:27:34:21 - 01:27:35:15] Speaker 1 That's funny.
[01:27:35:15 - 01:27:37:01] Speaker 2 Um, but nobody else knows.
[01:27:37:01 - 01:27:37:14] Speaker 1 Okay.
[01:27:37:14 - 01:27:40:04] Speaker 2 I have everybody blocked that I know of.
[01:27:40:04 - 01:28:17:09] Speaker 1 But yeah, that's the thing, right? Because I don't know if you have like a backup account or anything like that, but every time you open another account, you got to go through the fucking list again and go start blocking. That's why I'm like, I need a second phone with a different phone line so that, you know, I don't have any contacts on that phone. Because even if you think that, um, like even if you don't allow Facebook or TikTok or IG to, what is that thing where they, the suggestions, the suggestions where they, um, use your contacts to find, you know, you still pop up.
[01:28:18:09 - 01:28:33:09] Speaker 1 So you got to be careful. I mean, my mom, I have her blocked on everything and then she goes, she knows what I do obviously, but she goes, uh, uh, I saw you sitting down on a chair with a microphone. I was like, okay, thanks for letting me know, mom. I'm going to go block you right now.
[01:28:34:13 - 01:28:41:03] Speaker 3 You know, and then I didn't open that IG. So now I'm like, damn it. I got to go. So I'm texting my husband block this
[01:28:41:03 - 01:28:48:08] Speaker 1 person and that person and this person. But at the end of the day, it's our lives, right? And everybody can just kiss our
[01:28:48:08 - 01:28:56:01] Speaker 2 behinds. Sometimes I don't care. I'm like, you know what it is, what it is. But then I think when it really happens, I'm like, oh, me too.
[01:28:56:01 - 01:29:18:03] Speaker 1 I have days like that where I'm just like, everyone, you're going to have to beep that by bad. Um, like screw everyone. This is me. Love me or hate me. You know, if you don't like it, that's your problem. And there's other days where I see like when I was on TikTok and I was under 5k followers and it's like this person viewed your profile. I'm like, God damn it, babe, babe. They know we're fucked.
[01:29:19:20 - 01:29:22:23] Speaker 3 So, but I mean, it all depends on the day, I guess.
[01:29:22:23 - 01:29:25:06] Speaker 2 My mom has a little bit of an idea.
[01:29:25:06 - 01:29:25:20] Speaker 3 Yeah.
[01:29:25:20 - 01:29:33:12] Speaker 2 It's just for the past two years I've been doing Miami swim week for like the fashion. Okay. Miami for the big swimwear.
[01:29:35:01 - 01:29:42:00] Speaker 2 And she's like kind of seen me like she doesn't live with me, but sometimes like, Hey, I need help, whatever.
[01:29:43:01 - 01:29:52:01] Speaker 2 Um, and she's like, where are you going? Yeah. Why, why, why are you, why are you wearing that? I'm like, I'm like, no, I'm, you know, I'm doing modeling. She goes since one.
[01:29:53:04 - 01:29:54:20] Speaker 2 I was like, since now.
[01:29:57:07 - 01:30:04:11] Speaker 3 She was like, okay. But you know what? At the end of the day, like, I don't know how old you are. I'm 34. And it's like, you're 38.
[01:30:04:11 - 01:30:08:05] Speaker 1 Oh, I look great. Thank you. Not like 38 is old, but I would have said younger.
[01:30:08:05 - 01:30:10:08] Speaker 4 What? I'm 38. I'm 38 too.
[01:30:12:00 - 01:30:14:14] Speaker 3 But it's like, we still fear our parents.
[01:30:14:14 - 01:30:15:08] Speaker 2 We do.
[01:30:15:08 - 01:30:16:04] Speaker 3 Right.
[01:30:16:04 - 01:30:21:15] Speaker 1 We don't. Yeah, he doesn't because you're French, my love. That's, uh, she's Latin. Where are you from?
[01:30:21:15 - 01:30:22:10] Speaker 4 Oh, that's why.
[01:30:22:10 - 01:30:23:21] Speaker 2 Born and raised here, but parents are Cuban.
[01:30:23:21 - 01:30:24:23] Speaker 1 Cuban. Okay.
[01:30:24:23 - 01:30:26:13] Speaker 2 So they have that old mentality.
[01:30:26:13 - 01:30:31:16] Speaker 1 Yeah. 1000%. But then again, you're in Miami and like, Oh, there's times I tell my
[01:30:31:16 - 01:30:32:22] Speaker 2 mom, like mom, we're in 2026.
[01:30:32:22 - 01:30:42:14] Speaker 1 Yeah. Like get over it. Like two out of three people are doing OF at this point. Oh yeah. You know what I mean? Like it's just, but I would not be able to explain that to my father. Mm-hmm.
[01:30:42:14 - 01:30:43:12] Speaker 2 You know, me either.
[01:30:43:12 - 01:30:49:14] Speaker 1 Yeah. But anyways, um, so let us know what are your plans for the near future?
[01:30:51:13 - 01:30:52:16] Speaker 2 The near future.
[01:30:55:01 - 01:30:59:22] Speaker 2 Honest. I've the near future. I definitely want to get brand deals.
[01:31:00:22 - 01:31:10:10] Speaker 2 I've gotten a few here and there, but that's definitely my goal. I've been working really hard on my Instagram page because numbers matter. Absolutely.
[01:31:11:14 - 01:31:12:11] Speaker 2 So that is my goal.
[01:31:12:11 - 01:31:14:20] Speaker 1 Amazing. I wish you luck with that.
[01:31:14:20 - 01:31:15:11] Speaker 2 Thank you.
[01:31:15:11 - 01:31:26:04] Speaker 1 Okay. And one last question for you. If you can switch lives with anyone for a day, dead or alive, who would it be and why?
[01:31:27:23 - 01:31:29:11] Speaker 5 Cat, you gotta answer me. The door.
[01:31:31:08 - 01:31:37:12] Speaker 5 I gotta wake up at five 30 in the morning. I gotta feed two humans.
[01:31:37:12 - 01:31:39:15] Speaker 3 I gotta bring them places.
[01:31:39:15 - 01:31:40:15] Speaker 5 I gotta wipe.
[01:31:40:15 - 01:31:41:04] Speaker 3 Basses.
[01:31:41:04 - 01:31:43:04] Speaker 5 No, pick someone else.
[01:31:44:17 - 01:31:51:18] Speaker 3 That would be an easy one. Oh man. Maybe, maybe Lex is star on vacation. Okay.
[01:31:52:18 - 01:31:54:07] Speaker 3 Not on the day to day.
[01:31:56:17 - 01:32:03:01] Speaker 1 A few moments later.
[01:32:03:01 - 01:32:07:23] Speaker 2 Yeah. I've never been asked that question. I have no idea. That's why I'm asking it. Yeah.
[01:32:07:23 - 01:32:11:13] Speaker 4 First thing that pops to your head. Be Brad Pitt.
[01:32:13:10 - 01:32:13:23] Speaker 2 He's so hot.
[01:32:16:11 - 01:32:21:07] Speaker 2 Who would I be? I guess Kim Kardashian actually. Yeah.
[01:32:21:07 - 01:32:22:09] Speaker 1 That would be interesting life.
[01:32:22:09 - 01:32:23:22] Speaker 2 Yeah. Watch your show something.
[01:32:23:22 - 01:32:25:01] Speaker 1 Oh, do you?
[01:32:25:01 - 01:32:25:08] Speaker 2 Yeah.
[01:32:25:08 - 01:32:28:08] Speaker 1 Yeah. I haven't watched reality TV in a hot minute.
[01:32:28:08 - 01:32:30:22] Speaker 2 Just to see if it's actually real. Everything like.
[01:32:30:22 - 01:32:50:12] Speaker 1 I highly doubt that most of it is real, but I have been seeing everyone wear skims. I have. Do you have any? No, I do not. I went to this like event on Saturday and everybody was in skims and I'm like, and I touched it, the material because it feels good and it literally just snatches you.
[01:32:50:12 - 01:32:51:01] Speaker 6 Really?
[01:32:51:01 - 01:33:03:14] Speaker 1 So yeah, I think I think I'm going to buy like one to try it out because they told me that you can size down because they're very stretchy. So I don't want to order too much and then have to return.
[01:33:04:15 - 01:33:09:15] Speaker 1 But, uh, but Kim Kardashian would be good. You see who she's, you know, yeah.
[01:33:09:15 - 01:33:14:08] Speaker 2 Because you watch your show and you feel like you know her because she throws her life out.
[01:33:14:08 - 01:33:15:04] Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:33:15:04 - 01:33:24:19] Speaker 2 But I don't know to actually be in her life and see what she actually goes through on a daily basis. It would be interesting. Even her mom, Kris Jenner.
[01:33:24:19 - 01:33:37:08] Speaker 1 Kris Jenner. Yeah. That's a good one. But she's, she's like, she's always on something. She's like 6 PM having a cocktail. Oh my God. I think I would be, I don't know if this is going to get hate, but I think I'd be the president just
[01:33:37:08 - 01:33:47:05] Speaker 3 to see what he goes through in a day. Right. You know what? That's a good one. Like the hate or like, you know, it must be a hectic life to be that. Really?
[01:33:47:05 - 01:33:53:11] Speaker 1 And like you must be, you know, people love you, people hate you. I wonder what that would be like. But yeah.
[01:33:53:11 - 01:33:55:23] Speaker 2 Just a celebrity. Yeah. Just like, yeah.
[01:33:55:23 - 01:34:05:22] Speaker 1 You know, or I'd be like, um, Jeff Bezos or somebody like super rich, you know, and just go on like shop till I drop.
[01:34:07:22 - 01:34:34:08] Speaker 1 Just fucking anything you buy it. You want to privilege it? You got it. Imagine. But that's the goal. The goal is to make that much money. Kat, thank you so much for being here. I really appreciate it. So if you guys want to follow Kat on IG, it's the underscore real kitty cat with K's. Yes. Right. Correct. There you go. Thank you so much for joining us guys. And we'll see you soon.
[01:34:37:20 - 01:34:38:03] Speaker 3 Bye.
[01:34:38:03 - 01:34:49:17] Speaker 4 35 minutes
[01:34:49:17 - 01:34:49:22] Speaker 3 Oh,
[01:34:49:22 - 01:34:51:18] Speaker 3 that's perfect That's the spot
[01:34:53:08 - 01:34:55:16] Speaker 3 Are you kids in school? Yes
[01:34:55:16 - 01:35:02:02] Speaker 3 They're actually home school Yeah, that's cool I started this year home school And I have a teacher that comes to the house Okay, this
[01:35:02:02 - 01:35:03:06] Speaker 3 is very, very different
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