EP40 Kylie Chase | She Hid Her Online Career From Her Family for Years

00:00:00:00 - 00:00:04:00 Unknown my mom's first impression when she saw the video, like, she thought that it was like

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00:00:06:18 - 00:00:09:03 Unknown Yes. It was. Oh my God.

00:00:09:05 - 00:00:10:17 Unknown it was like one of the first videos.

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00:00:14:12 - 00:00:22:22 Unknown Yeah. And my mom was crying. She was like, throwing up, like sick to her stomach, like telling me that, like I made her sick. No, because she thought I was doing

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00:00:25:02 - 00:00:30:12 Unknown And then I turned 18 in March and then that like June. DM'd me on Instagram.

00:00:30:14 - 00:00:33:05 Unknown Okay. We're an agency like she wanted to

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00:00:38:06 - 00:00:40:09 Unknown Yeah. And did they make you that much in a month?

00:00:40:12 - 00:00:51:04 Unknown No. Okay. Got to be careful. It was. It was still good. Like, I went from, like, working at a car shop and making, like, $8 an hour to making, like, $4,000 in, like, two weeks.

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00:01:18:03 - 00:01:25:22 Unknown Welcome back to the Lexus Car Show, guys. We are here at a content house with the circle, and we have this lovely lady over here. I'm going to let her introduce herself.

00:01:26:00 - 00:01:29:14 Unknown Hi, everyone. My name is Kylie Chase. So nice to meet you guys.

00:01:29:16 - 00:01:31:02 Unknown And tell us what it is that you do.

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00:01:34:01 - 00:01:38:17 Unknown like everyone else that we've been interviewing and everybody else these days.

00:01:38:19 - 00:01:40:04 Unknown So where are you originally from?

00:01:40:07 - 00:01:47:02 Unknown So I'm originally from California. Okay. And I'm currently going to school in Ohio.

00:01:47:04 - 00:01:48:17 Unknown Oh. What are you studying?

00:01:48:22 - 00:01:50:15 Unknown I'm studying psychology.

00:01:50:19 - 00:01:56:15 Unknown Okay, okay. That's interesting. And what made you want to do that?

00:01:56:17 - 00:02:00:07 Unknown I don't know. In high school, I really liked the show. Dexter.

00:02:00:10 - 00:02:02:16 Unknown Okay. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

00:02:02:18 - 00:02:14:03 Unknown And watching that show, like, I don't know, it really made me like, think of, like, like, especially like Dexter, whose mind is so, like, messed up. Yeah. Like, I feel like it'd be really interesting to like, study the brain.

00:02:14:04 - 00:02:29:06 Unknown So I was like psychology seems pretty interesting. I actually was like undecided when I went into college last year. And I was like I'm going to take a psychology class and see if that's like my vibe. And I really enjoyed the class. Okay I cleared my major after that.

00:02:29:08 - 00:02:30:22 Unknown Are you like a great student.

00:02:31:00 - 00:02:31:22 Unknown Yes. Are you.

00:02:32:00 - 00:02:38:03 Unknown I have a few BS like okay. But my first semester of college I got a 4.0

00:02:38:07 - 00:02:48:19 Unknown get out. Okay, so not just a pretty face. Good job. So what made you decide? I mean, so I'm assuming you started off prior to going to school?

00:02:48:22 - 00:02:49:10 Unknown Yes.

00:02:49:12 - 00:02:52:10 Unknown Okay. And what made you decide to get into that?

00:02:52:12 - 00:03:01:12 Unknown I obviously just got reached out to on Instagram. Okay. In high school, obviously, I wasn't old enough to. Yeah. But, like, it was kind of always in the back of my mind. When I heard people were starting to make money and

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00:03:01:18 - 00:03:09:21 Unknown fans I was like. Like I feel like I could do that. I actually made an account like right when I turned 18 like before knowing like agencies were there.

00:03:09:22 - 00:03:16:22 Unknown Yeah. And I just like did you know how it worked at all. And I posted like a photo and obviously got like no traction. And I was just like, whatever.

00:03:16:22 - 00:03:22:09 Unknown Well, you open an account or an IG account. Oh, okay. Okay, okay.

00:03:22:11 - 00:03:27:21 Unknown And then I turned 18 in March and then that like June. DM'd me on Instagram.

00:03:27:23 - 00:03:30:14 Unknown Okay. We're an agency like she wanted to

00:03:30:19 - 00:03:35:14 Unknown OnlyFans. And they were like we're going to make you this much in a month. And I was like sign me up. Like are we serious.

00:03:35:15 - 00:03:37:18 Unknown Yeah. And did they make you that much in a month?

00:03:37:21 - 00:03:48:13 Unknown No. Okay. Got to be careful. It was. It was still good. Like, I went from, like, working at a car shop and making, like, $8 an hour to making, like, $4,000 in, like, two weeks.

00:03:48:13 - 00:03:50:20 Unknown And. Wow, this is like, so, like, this is so nice.

00:03:50:22 - 00:03:56:11 Unknown Yeah, definitely. That's a big jump. And did you quit your, job that you were

00:03:56:15 - 00:04:06:22 Unknown not right away? I kept my job for a while. I think it was like, at least like six months. I kept my job because I didn't. My family knew that I was, like, working.

00:04:07:00 - 00:04:10:01 Unknown Okay. And I didn't want my family to get suspicious.

00:04:10:03 - 00:04:17:12 Unknown Yeah. So they knew I had money coming in who's, like, kept my job. But I only worked, like, one day a week. I just took my hours down. Okay.

00:04:17:13 - 00:04:20:11 Unknown Okay. And do your parents or does your family know what you do right now?

00:04:20:12 - 00:04:23:06 Unknown Yes. They do. Okay. I didn't tell them.

00:04:23:09 - 00:04:24:19 Unknown Oh, okay.

00:04:25:01 - 00:04:33:12 Unknown One of my subscribers. I only, I don't know, was, like, beefing with me. What? Yeah.

00:04:33:13 - 00:04:35:08 Unknown He's like, I'm going to tell on you.

00:04:35:10 - 00:04:41:22 Unknown Yeah. Get out! My mom a video. Shut the front door. Email.

00:04:42:00 - 00:04:43:06 Unknown did you know this person?

00:04:43:08 - 00:04:46:18 Unknown No, it was like a it was totally like a made up email.

00:04:46:20 - 00:04:52:02 Unknown So I don't know who it was, but obviously how to be someone that was subscribed to my page to have one video.

00:04:52:07 - 00:04:54:18 Unknown How do they have your mom's email address?

00:04:54:19 - 00:04:58:23 Unknown That's what I really do. So if somebody, you know, 1,000%

00:04:59:01 - 00:05:04:23 Unknown think it might be someone that I like went to college with, like, maybe like a crazy ex-boyfriend.

00:05:05:03 - 00:05:07:21 Unknown Oh my God. And what did how did they react?

00:05:07:22 - 00:05:11:04 Unknown It was horrible. Oh my God, I can't even imagine. Tell me.

00:05:11:06 - 00:05:17:13 Unknown Well, okay. So at first, like my mom's first impression when she saw the video, like, she thought that it was like

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00:05:18:06 - 00:05:20:05 Unknown Okay. Was it an explicit video?

00:05:20:07 - 00:05:22:16 Unknown Yes. It was. Oh my God.

00:05:22:18 - 00:05:24:06 Unknown it was like one of the first videos.

00:05:24:06 - 00:05:26:13 Unknown Like me too. So it was like, not very. Oh, my.

00:05:26:17 - 00:05:27:23 Unknown I could imagine.

00:05:28:01 - 00:05:36:11 Unknown Yeah. And my mom was crying. She was like, throwing up, like sick to her stomach, like telling me that, like I made her sick. No, because she thought I was doing

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00:05:37:12 - 00:05:38:13 Unknown Oh. So

00:05:38:15 - 00:05:41:09 Unknown I just, like, didn't like, I was, like, speechless. Yeah.

00:05:41:09 - 00:05:49:17 Unknown I actually had surgery the day my mom found out. Oh, and I was, like, sitting on the couch, like, really out of it still from anesthesia. And she just comes downstairs, like, screaming, and she's like.

00:05:49:17 - 00:05:52:13 Unknown And you're like, mommy? She

00:05:52:15 - 00:06:05:21 Unknown she was like, kind of like, what the f? I'm like. I'm like, oh my God. She's like reading the description of, like, the person that like, emailed her this and it was like it was saying really bad things like, you know, I hope you know, like, what your daughter's doing and, like, describes everything in the video.

00:06:05:21 - 00:06:10:08 Unknown And then like, obviously she opens the video and it was just like horrible. But she had no idea it was

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00:06:10:17 - 00:06:20:08 Unknown fans. And she was just like really mad at me screaming for like hours. Like we kind of didn't talk for like an hour or two and I was like texting my friends. I was like, what do I do.

00:06:20:09 - 00:06:22:06 Unknown They were like, do you just come?

00:06:22:07 - 00:06:22:22 Unknown Yeah.

00:06:23:00 - 00:06:29:20 Unknown Yeah. And I like sat her down and I'll say, okay. Like I have to confess. Like it's like it's not porn. I swear. Like, it's

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00:06:30:06 - 00:06:37:06 Unknown fans. Yeah. And she was like, oh, well, you should have told me that to begin with. And I was like, what? Like, I do not think to do that.

00:06:37:07 - 00:06:41:14 Unknown And she was like, yo. Like, I know a few people that like my age that do that on the side.

00:06:41:15 - 00:06:45:12 Unknown No way. Oh, I was like, okay. And she was like,

00:06:45:17 - 00:06:56:00 Unknown yeah, as long as you're not doing anything like too crazy on there, okay. So I told her I was like, yeah, I'm honestly just like posting like pictures, like, you know, like little explicit.

00:06:56:02 - 00:07:03:06 Unknown Yeah. And she was like, well, what about like, the video I saw? And I told her I was like, oh, that was me experimenting in the beginning. And I don't do that. Yeah.

00:07:03:12 - 00:07:06:04 Unknown Was it a solo vid that she saw? Yes. At least.

00:07:06:08 - 00:07:13:17 Unknown Yeah. She just doesn't need to know when I'm like, yeah. I mean, I think she does know that it's more than pictures, but most likely.

00:07:13:18 - 00:07:18:12 Unknown Yeah, I think she just likes that. Like, I told her that. Yeah. What she's envisioning in her head.

00:07:18:14 - 00:07:29:23 Unknown Yeah. That's okay. Mama can think whatever she wants as long as, like, she's cool with it. And, you know, it wasn't anything wilder than that, because, I mean, I still have people in my life who don't know what I do.

00:07:30:03 - 00:07:48:00 Unknown You know? And I'm like, God damn if they find that was basically my father. You know, if you were to find out, it's like what I was going to say. But at the end of the day, I mean, you're a lot younger than me. Yeah, I'm 34, you know? Yeah, I'm kind of my own. Not so you're not your own woman, but, like, you know, I'm

00:07:48:01 - 00:07:50:07 Unknown 34 years old, like I'm married.

00:07:50:07 - 00:07:53:13 Unknown I have kids like, you can't really tell me what to do. You know what I mean?

00:07:53:14 - 00:08:04:04 Unknown So. But that's a wild story. I can't believe somebody would actually send that to your mother. I feel like it must be somebody who truly doesn't like you for them. And it could actually even be a girl, right?

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00:08:39:16 - 00:08:45:08 Unknown Oh, 100%. It was probably for sure someone from my college, when I first started doing

00:08:45:14 - 00:08:56:04 Unknown OnlyFans, of course, the first agency that I had worked with, they like, had me set up a social media account through like my phone, like they didn't run it for me and my contacts were linked.

00:08:56:08 - 00:09:01:02 Unknown That's the worst one found out I had. Oh my god, University.

00:09:01:04 - 00:09:10:12 Unknown And I had a lot of people, like, blocked me and like, stop talking to me. So I for sure think that it could have been someone that like kind of dis me for like doing it for sure.

00:09:10:16 - 00:09:13:18 Unknown Oh, it's probably somebody that got linked with your account.

00:09:13:18 - 00:09:18:11 Unknown And then they saw you and then they did that. Oh my God, that is scary.

00:09:18:15 - 00:09:23:18 Unknown Well, anyways, you know what? Now it's done. Yeah, right. She knows you're in the. We're in the clear. Honestly.

00:09:23:20 - 00:09:27:14 Unknown Yeah. Because you don't want to live with that. Like fear. Oh. What if she finds out

00:09:27:16 - 00:09:31:00 Unknown or. That's not right. I was waking up and I was like, she can find out today,

00:09:31:04 - 00:09:36:06 Unknown but how do you create content like I used to live at home?

00:09:36:09 - 00:10:03:07 Unknown No. Okay. So my freshman year, I moved into. Actually, I lived in an apartment. Okay? I live in an apartment now. I do have roommates, which having roommates is kind of like, make content. Yeah, but I kind of just, like, make content on my. All my roommates have jobs. Yeah. When they're like, at work. That's kind of what I like, try to make content, but I've never, like, made content, like in, like my mom's house or like, okay, anywhere around them because I just

00:10:03:09 - 00:10:05:08 Unknown write like.

00:10:05:09 - 00:10:08:14 Unknown I did things there and you're just like,

00:10:08:15 - 00:10:14:09 Unknown look at the video my mom got sent to her was like filmed in her house. Oh my god. Imagine

00:10:14:11 - 00:10:19:12 Unknown that would have been so bad. I mean it would have probably been a bit funny, but you know, like

00:10:19:14 - 00:10:24:19 Unknown I really that's why it's so bad. So so

00:10:24:21 - 00:10:30:15 Unknown so, when it comes to posting on IG, what what do you like to post

00:10:30:18 - 00:10:31:09 Unknown on Instagram?

00:10:31:11 - 00:10:33:09 Unknown I kind of try to keep it PG.

00:10:33:11 - 00:10:45:11 Unknown I'm hearing that a lot by the way, because I feel like I'm sorry to interrupt you, but everybody is being like super explicit. And then they're realizing that that's not going to work for you because you're not getting,

00:10:45:14 - 00:10:46:11 Unknown pushed,

00:10:46:13 - 00:10:50:20 Unknown it makes you less money. But, IG doesn't push you right on the explore page.

00:10:50:20 - 00:10:58:07 Unknown So I feel like everybody is like, this started like this, and then it's like a funnel, you know? And now everybody's becoming like more conservative a little bit on IG.

00:10:58:09 - 00:11:06:08 Unknown Yeah. I have like one post on my Instagram right now that's like me in lingerie, but it was like a little Christmas photoshoot. I did, just like because it was the holidays.

00:11:06:08 - 00:11:11:10 Unknown Yeah, for me, I like to stray away from like any. Yeah, like honestly, even like

00:11:11:12 - 00:11:25:21 Unknown just because I feel like if people are following my Instagram and they're seeing me fully clothed and they see the link in my bio, they're going to click on it and they're going to want to like, hey, exactly. If I'm like posting in lingerie, they're like, oh, I'm already seeing that.

00:11:25:22 - 00:11:33:03 Unknown Exactly. Yeah. So I just feel like that's just like the best way to like for my Instagram. And then I feel like it's unreal too.

00:11:33:05 - 00:11:39:20 Unknown Okay. Well, how does how do you, choose what reels to post you, like, follow what's trending at the moment?

00:11:39:21 - 00:11:46:05 Unknown So I have a TikTok and I follow a ton of girls that post like raunchy TikTok stuff.

00:11:46:05 - 00:11:55:14 Unknown Okay. The captions. Okay, so all my TikToks are like, PG like body wise. Like they're all just like sheer enough. I'm normally wearing like a hoodie or something, okay? And it's always like

00:11:55:16 - 00:12:06:00 Unknown captions. Okay. So my captions are like, oh, I'm a daddy's girl. Okay. Not that kind of daddy kind of okay. She's like, kind of like, funny jokes, but they're like,

00:12:06:02 - 00:12:12:08 Unknown Okay. And have you been have you been banned on on TikTok? Because I got banned ones and I was like, God

00:12:12:10 - 00:12:17:21 Unknown damn it, I tried going live a few times on TikTok. Yeah, like I heard that helps.

00:12:17:23 - 00:12:19:10 Unknown Yeah, but you can't say

00:12:19:12 - 00:12:25:22 Unknown on TikTok. Yeah. Oh, follow my Instagram. And people would like, go to my Instagram. I would wear like a hoodie, okay.

00:12:25:22 - 00:12:29:08 Unknown And people would like report me for like being like

00:12:29:09 - 00:12:32:17 Unknown like I don't even once again, I think it was just someone that like,

00:12:32:19 - 00:12:34:19 Unknown that's a hater. That's for me. Yeah, yeah.

00:12:34:22 - 00:12:42:00 Unknown But yeah, I don't know, I, I feel like it's more just like PG, what are you guys? But then like, does it really matter what I'm saying?

00:12:42:05 - 00:13:00:12 Unknown Yeah. I've never really been flogged for like, the, like, written things I've put on TikTok. Okay. But my account was banned for two weeks. One time for like, tik Tok live. And then I've had some videos removed. But normally the videos that are removed are like me wearing something that's like really tight or okay on

00:13:00:14 - 00:13:01:06 Unknown on TikTok.

00:13:01:11 - 00:13:03:04 Unknown Yeah, okay. Just like stopped saying it.

00:13:03:05 - 00:13:19:08 Unknown Yeah, yeah, honestly, just keep your hoodie on especially. They're still going to freaking flag you for it, right? Yeah. Do you ever get scared when it comes to, because social media is such a big marketing tool for us. Do you ever get scared that you're going to lose your account and then have to restart all over again?

00:13:19:11 - 00:13:36:06 Unknown Yes, I did actually lose an Instagram account. The first Instagram account that I had, it never really got like big. I mean, for me it was big. My account's not super huge right now. I have like 3500 followers, which, like, I grew in a really short amount of time. Bigger than like 3 or 4 months.

00:13:36:06 - 00:13:52:19 Unknown Okay. Which was really good. And it was like really pop. And I had a few videos I hit like a million views. Wow. And right when my videos started like popping off you got I got banned and the it I was back and forth with them for about a month and they were like debating on whether they were going to give the account.

00:13:52:21 - 00:14:07:17 Unknown And then they deleted the account. And then I made my new account, which, like my new account's like kind of climbing up. I'm at 2500 followers. Okay. But I don't have any of like, the like videos are reaching, like a million views. Yeah, sucks because I'm like, if I still have that account, I'd probably be at a lot more.

00:14:07:17 - 00:14:08:06 Unknown Yeah.

00:14:08:08 - 00:14:14:01 Unknown That's wild. So what does a day look like for you when it comes to content creation? How often do you create content?

00:14:14:03 - 00:14:21:05 Unknown To be honest, I feel like I don't create content a ton. My very first year, like the entire year that I was doing

00:14:21:11 - 00:14:31:08 Unknown OnlyFans, I feel like every single day it was, it was like I would wake up and I would like, I had like a strict schedule to, I would like have a notes or like in my like notes up.

00:14:31:08 - 00:14:54:15 Unknown I would like, write like, okay, I need to make like ten videos. I need to take like 45 pictures and then I need to make like 20 reels or something. Yeah. So I, I racked up a ton. My first year to the point where like I noticed that I even have to reuse content, but it's like one specific video, I'll have like a few and be like oh I want to see this.

00:14:54:17 - 00:15:15:09 Unknown And there's a lot of fans asked for that. I'll just make like 20 of those. Yeah. So that like when people ask for it again I can just send them another video. Doing it like another time in another place or something. Yeah. So for me I feel like maybe once a month I'll do content. Okay. When I make my content you just, it's like I'll do it for like a weekend or for three days.

00:15:15:13 - 00:15:18:21 Unknown And it's just like all day, like morning and morning and I. Yeah

00:15:18:23 - 00:15:36:03 Unknown that's good. That's what's great about our our work. You can work when you want major content when you want. So you have a lot of flexibility. How do you stay authentic when you have to portray you know who you are because we we don't necessarily show our real self as much as we we do a little bit.

00:15:36:03 - 00:15:50:15 Unknown I feel like a lot of the girls that I met today, very genuine. They do show a little bit of themselves like their real self to their audience. But you also have to, you know, keep some things private. How do you manage to stay authentic?

00:15:50:16 - 00:15:56:11 Unknown I go live, kind of frequently on my page. So I feel like that's how I connect with my film.

00:15:56:13 - 00:16:12:03 Unknown You all like they're like, getting to actually see the real me. Like, people think that it's like that. I'm like, I or something. Yeah, I'll be on live. And they're like, oh my gosh, you're real. Yeah. And it's just a way for me to connect with my fans better. But also, like you said, like, you know, keeping something safe.

00:16:12:03 - 00:16:25:20 Unknown So like sometimes fans will ask questions, specifically like, oh, like where are you living? Like, what city are you in? Like, what dorm were you? Yeah, yeah. Chill out. Like, you don't need to know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:16:25:22 - 00:16:33:02 Unknown No, you got to brush some things off. You got to keep some things private because, I mean, sometimes I feel like it could get overwhelming and it's like, too much.

00:16:33:02 - 00:16:43:21 Unknown And you don't want people as much as you're in the public eye. You don't want people to, like, know every single thing about you, right? Yeah. For sure. And then, I mean, there's days where I'm feeling like all happy go lucky, and then I tend to overshare

00:16:43:21 - 00:16:52:03 Unknown and I'm just like, right, especially when you go on live. Sometimes I'm talking like, oh, crap, maybe I should have to send out this year.

00:16:52:09 - 00:16:56:22 Unknown So to finish off, I want to know what is the craziest DM that you've ever gotten,

00:16:57:00 - 00:17:08:00 Unknown okay. Look here. And this was like kind of a few months ago. This is on Instagram. So this, like, this wasn't my request, but it was like this wife of this guy that subscribe to my

00:17:08:05 - 00:17:12:09 Unknown OnlyFans and she gives me like three long paragraphs like this thing.

00:17:12:09 - 00:17:23:21 Unknown And it was basically cussing me out. And she was like, F you. She was like, you're the reason my my marriage is ending. And I was like, and she was just like going on about how her husband was subscribe to my

00:17:24:03 - 00:17:29:22 Unknown OnlyFans. And she like, didn't know. And then she like, had found out and she was like blaming me for it.

00:17:30:00 - 00:17:36:01 Unknown But like, I'm sorry that entered your marriage, but like, that's not my fault that your husband subscribed to me. How was I supposed to know that?

00:17:36:02 - 00:17:41:05 Unknown But. And that's all my fault. One thing I hate,

00:17:41:07 - 00:17:49:23 Unknown I don't want to say I hate about women, but one thing I hate is when a woman, a man cheats on a woman, okay?

00:17:49:23 - 00:18:13:08 Unknown And then they blame the woman. The woman. It's like, how about you blame your husband or your boyfriend? Because it's like, what if you didn't know? Like you obviously didn't know, but like, people who cheat or whatever, like men lie. They're going to say, I'm not married, I don't have a girlfriend. And then the girls, you see girls online freaking beating up other girls because their boyfriend cheat on them.

00:18:13:08 - 00:18:14:19 Unknown It's like, how about you beat up your boyfriend?

00:18:14:21 - 00:18:28:11 Unknown Literally. You know what I mean? I shouldn't have been in the middle of that. Did you respond? No. Oh, yeah. Don't go. No, I never response. Yeah, stuff like that. I just I feel like it just like makes things worse and drains your energy. Yeah. That is a wild story.

00:18:28:13 - 00:18:42:02 Unknown Thank you so much for being here. It was nice chatting with you. That is all for today, guys. Thank you so much. And we'll see you soon.

00:18:42:03 - 00:18:47:20 Unknown Oh. Oh.