EP52 Courtney Tillia | She Had a Master’s Degree… and Still Needed Food Stamps

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00:01:15:04 - 00:01:36:05 Unknown So I am ready to go. Okay. Welcome back to another episode of the Lexus SA show. Today's guest has one of the most fascinating career stories you'll hear. She went from being a special education teacher to becoming one of the biggest creators on OnlyFans. Appeared on Doctor Phil and has built a successful bill and has press pause. That's okay.

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00:02:02:13 - 00:02:24:00 Unknown Honey, for having me. Thank you for being on the show. I know you're not here for a long time. Not. I really appreciate you taking the time. Coming here. How's Miami been so far for you? So good. Beautiful. Hot and humid. Which we're not used to. The humidity in LA, but it's beautiful. Yeah, I know we. I love the humidity.

00:02:24:00 - 00:02:45:11 Unknown Do you? I'm not a curly hair girl, so that's fine. I know that girls with curly hair are not fans of humidity, but we are from Canada and we have winter for eight months. Okay, so like, coming here was like, yes, finally, you know, form weather all the time. Yeah, yeah. Just your mood. Because we were literally white and depressed in Canada, you know.

00:02:45:11 - 00:03:06:10 Unknown Yeah. We went to visit. We went to visit back in May and I was like, oh man. Like I don't have a good time. And I went there and I'm like, you guys are white. Yeah. You guys need to to get some sun, but step it up a little bit. Yeah, yeah. No it's nice. I don't have curly hair, but like the frizz that happens that I'm like, oh my God, I'm gonna have to like hairspray this back.

00:03:06:11 - 00:03:22:09 Unknown Last time I was in Miami, I like literally bought a jar of gel, which was like, that is so not my thing. But I was like, I don't know what else to do with my hair combs and just spray some spray on it. Okay. And then you just see we're learning the tips because I was like, this is crazy.

00:03:22:10 - 00:03:46:16 Unknown It is, it is, but it's great. We love Miami. Yeah. All right. So you have a very interesting story. Thank you. You were a teacher. Yeah. So what made you get into teaching in the first place? I loved working with kids. I struggled in school myself. And so I was just like, how can I, like, give back? I actually started out my college career to be a pilot, and I got my pilot's license when I was 16.

00:03:46:18 - 00:04:04:18 Unknown Yeah. What kind of pilot? Just. I wanted to be a military pilot. To be honest, I had a full ride to Texas A&M to be in their core of cadets and was, like, set to be like a military pilot. And then I was like, what am I doing? I got did my first. I didn't end up going to Texas A&M.

00:04:04:18 - 00:04:24:09 Unknown I went there and I was like, oh, this isn't for me. I went to Arizona State and started off in aerospace engineering. Okay, I did one semester and I was like, this is not it. I was like, this is wild. But the really cool thing is that we were the first group of students to be able to, like, track Mars.

00:04:24:10 - 00:04:40:08 Unknown Oh, and so each student got to take a photo of Mars, which was because we. I guess you had its own, like, orbiter on it. So like, I got to take a photo of Mars myself. That and because they're so expensive, nobody else gets to take the same photo. So my photo of Mars is the only one that exists.

00:04:40:09 - 00:05:00:03 Unknown So do you have a framed. I know, I don't even know where it's at. You're talking about it like it's like I'm the nobody. I know this picture, but now it's like I don't even know where it is. Actually the battle for $1 billion, right? And it literally says like Arizona State and it's like it's beautifully printed. Yeah.

00:05:00:05 - 00:05:17:19 Unknown I need to find this. Yeah. And so you went into teaching. Yeah. So I switched to teaching because I was like, I love kids always have always wanted to give back. And specifically special needs kids like I remember in like first grade, like they were always kind of, you know, like outcasts or like by themselves. And I was like, I don't get it.

00:05:17:20 - 00:05:33:16 Unknown Like, why? Why are you guys by yourselves? And I was like, come on. Like, I'll be your friend. I'll help you. Like, whatever. And so I was just like, that's always been like something that I did and was passionate about. So that was the route I went. Nice. And how long were you teaching for? I did six years.

00:05:33:17 - 00:05:56:08 Unknown Okay. The students that I worked with were super severe. They couldn't go to a public school because they were physically aggressive. Oh, it's been hard. Yeah. So all my students were diagnosed with autism and then were physically aggressive. So I've been kicked, punched, bit slapped. Wow. Concussions all of. Oh, yes. No way. Oh, yeah. Smokes okay. Yeah. And you didn't lose the patience ever.

00:05:56:09 - 00:06:11:12 Unknown No, I like I felt like I understood them and I felt like people didn't understand them in a way that, like, I was like, they're just trying to communicate. They're not like, actually trying to like, okay, sometimes they were actually trying to hurt me. But like in at the like deepest level, it was like, I don't feel safe.

00:06:11:12 - 00:06:26:22 Unknown I'm scared, I have a headache and I don't know how to communicate that to you. And so I was like, what do I need to do to help you to get that out and give you those tools to be successful in the world? Well, that is awesome. Yeah, like kudos to you because that is something that I would not be able to do.

00:06:26:22 - 00:06:43:19 Unknown I see people's kids in stores sometime and I'm like, what a little shit, you know? But some of them are. And I was just like, I ran a strict classroom that I was like, there is accountability for your actions. And so like, they learned that they, like could be safe there. But also like you don't get to act like that here.

00:06:43:20 - 00:07:03:10 Unknown Like there are consequences to those kind of actions in this class. And so like I had so much success in the students. Parents loved me because I was just like their kids improved so much. Yeah, that's really cool. Yeah. If I were a teacher, then they would, like, fire me the next day. No. Better shut your mouth. Right.

00:07:03:12 - 00:07:23:19 Unknown Listen to me. I'm sure there are times that they were like. I wish she was going to teach. Like there was one day I didn't realize you couldn't put. I didn't even know this stuff. But you put it in the oven. Wax paper, which makes sense. Okay, you can't put wax paper in the oven. I 100% did, thinking that room in the school cafeteria, we had like a huge one.

00:07:23:19 - 00:07:40:20 Unknown And we would teach life skills and teach kids how to cook. And I thought it was, what's the other paper that you put in the parchment paper? Parchment paper? I thought it was parchment paper. I put wax paper in the oven and cooking, I like walk away from it because my classroom was literally right across the way. I was like, I'll set it, timer.

00:07:41:00 - 00:08:02:10 Unknown The smoke is billowing out of there, the alarms are going out, the whole school evacuates. And I was like, my cooking, my cooking. And the principal is like, Courtney, you can't put wax paper in the oven. And I was like, of course you can't put paper. What are you talking about? They were. Yeah. So I'm sure there were times that they were like, this, this.

00:08:02:12 - 00:08:26:02 Unknown That's hilarious. So you did six years of teaching and then you transition. We'll get to the transition later. But talk to me about making that decision of leaving teaching. Forget the off and like the creator part, but like, what did it feel like to leave that career? Oh, such a sigh of relief, to be honest. Like my. So I switched schools.

00:08:26:02 - 00:08:49:01 Unknown My final year I taught at a college preparatory and that year, like, I was already like really burned out, miserable. Not even because of the students. Like, obviously the students can be hard. The parents are brutal. Yeah. Yeah. Awful. Yeah. And I was like, I hate this so much. And I'm beyond broke. Let's be clear. Like and everyone's like, oh, you knew that going into it.

00:08:49:02 - 00:09:11:00 Unknown Yes. But you think like, oh, I get a bachelor's degree, I get a master's degree. I get like at the end of the day, you like compensated. And I got a master's degree and they paid me $20 more per paycheck. That's every two weeks, $20, $20 more. And being a parent, I'm like, cool pack of diapers. Like, yeah, yeah.

00:09:11:03 - 00:09:34:21 Unknown Me like, yeah. So like, you know that. But like, when you like, actually get into it and you're like, oh my gosh. Like it's bad. It's really bad. Yeah. Living paycheck to paycheck because I mean I know teachers make like what, 30, maybe 30, 40, 30 before taxes that yes, it's it's awful. And I remember going to a teacher meeting after class one day and it was getting close to summer.

00:09:34:21 - 00:09:55:14 Unknown And let me be clear, when you're when everyone's like, oh, but teachers get like holidays and summers off. I'm not getting paid. You don't know, okay. Because I know that back in Canada. So how they do it is that when you have Christmas vacation and then the summer vacation, they take your full pay, but then they divide it so that you get a pay every two weeks.

00:09:55:15 - 00:10:17:22 Unknown So you can take that option. Okay. But you know, because I didn't. And I'll tell you why. Because like, I was getting paid 1500 every two weeks to take that pay dropped me to like a thousand every two weeks. How do you want me to live? I was making 2000 and I didn't even have a master's degree. Could be my job.

00:10:18:00 - 00:10:34:16 Unknown So Canadian, which is. Yeah, which is peanuts. That is why. Yeah. So that's why I didn't take it. And a lot of teachers didn't, because the drop in pay for like the other rest of the year is so significant. Wow. And so I went to a meeting after class and everyone's, like, talking. And I was like a new teacher.

00:10:34:16 - 00:10:52:05 Unknown So I'm like, what do we do? Like, how do we survive this? And she was like, you don't know Courtney. And I was like, I don't. She's like, everyone's on food stamps and health insurance. Like, goes on like Medicare. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, really? Like, we like, have degrees and like, we work at full time and like, we, we go on food stamps.

00:10:52:05 - 00:11:08:21 Unknown She's like everyone's all the teachers go on food stamps. And I was like, no way. Yeah. I had no idea. Yeah. And I don't know that that's for everybody. But that's like it was like she was like, that's just what it is like. That's how it's done. Love. Holy shit. And I was like, did you end up going on?

00:11:08:22 - 00:11:27:19 Unknown I did for a month or for that, like some time. I was like, oh, as well. I was like, if that's how we do it, then that's how we do it. And let me tell you what, it's hard process if you think it's easy to get food stamps. I was like, this was so hard. Imagine you meetings and the interviews that I had to do to get.

00:11:27:20 - 00:11:46:09 Unknown Oh yeah, it was jumping through hoops. How crazy is it that you have a master's degree and during the summer you're on food stamps? Yeah. And then I started and I was like, well, then I like, did that one time. And then I was like, that was a lot of work. And that was hard. I'll just go back to like, bartending and like, did that.

00:11:46:09 - 00:12:03:08 Unknown I started doing that. My goodness, that is wild. And then it was like, well, then I could teach summer school. So then I did that for like summer years, like you're like always kind of like putting together the pieces to like, get through. That is wild because you, you go to school, you get your degree, then you're like, okay, well, like I'm, I'm set, right?

00:12:03:09 - 00:12:21:16 Unknown Even like you, definitely. If you're making 30 grand, that's definitely not enough. If you have a family, if you have kids, if you have a home, you can't survive. No. Right. And it just mind blowing that that's what it is, that you have to do all this, and then you still need to find a job on the side to like, make it through.

00:12:21:17 - 00:12:46:14 Unknown And I'll tell you, every teacher is whether it's tutoring, whether it's bartending, whether it's like those are probably the most common ones. And now obviously OnlyFans and things like that to like get through that, like people. That's what I'm like. You can shame on teachers for getting on OnlyFans. But like you either pay them better. Yeah. So that like they don't have to go a certain route if they don't want to or like let them be.

00:12:46:15 - 00:13:07:14 Unknown I've always said that doctors and teachers like in my opinion, need to be the highest paid people in a world because you are shaping the future. Yes, you are shaping, you know, little minds to become, you know, the next generation and create jobs and this and and it's just crazy that you guys are, in no offense, treated like crap when it comes to are that is why.

00:13:07:15 - 00:13:34:19 Unknown And like looked down upon by like parents and like I'm like, I spent more time with your kid this week. You did exactly right. Yeah. So true. Yeah. Okay. So when you started, when you decided to stop working as a teacher, from what I read, you didn't directly go into OnlyFans, right? So I had started doing, like, actually bodybuilding shows and posting sexy pictures and posting them online.

00:13:34:21 - 00:13:51:17 Unknown My husband was like, taking them and they were getting sexy and sexier. Yeah. And somebody was like, hey, can I buy like a two minute video for you from $200? And I mean, we know the backstory now. I'm like $200. At first you're like, he's like, for the week. I was like, for real? But I grew up religious.

00:13:51:18 - 00:14:08:18 Unknown I was like, oh, I don't know, like that's like, that's. I don't know about that. But I was like $200. Did you do it? I did it. Yeah. And you know what it was? Well, it was just like a dildo video, okay. It was very minimal. And I only had one dildo in my life at that time. Like, it was just.

00:14:08:19 - 00:14:27:11 Unknown It was. And where did you send it to him? Through IG, I think. So you would never do that today. You would not. But I think back then, like I would post full nudity like hand bras on Instagram. Yeah, I know back in the day I'm like, yeah, you can't do that anymore. You freaking show a bit of but cheek and you're like, freaking flag.

00:14:27:13 - 00:14:44:10 Unknown I actually got restricted yesterday from some features. I'm like, this wasn't even there yesterday. Like there's like, you can't use some features. I'm like, what? And somebody tried to send me a DM and it's I can't damn anybody. I'm like, what the fuck did I do? But luckily he fixed it for me real quick. I have a fitness page that's literally just fitness content.

00:14:44:10 - 00:15:05:05 Unknown And they were like, we've taken your DM's away. And it was like, for for what? But you. I've realized that fitness girls get a get get away with a lot of things that off girls don't. Yes. Right. Is it because they're in the gym and like, they're literally practically wearing a thong? And I'm like, how do you have so many followers and you're not getting bad?

00:15:05:06 - 00:15:25:15 Unknown Yeah, you know what I mean? Maybe. Yeah, definitely. Definitely discrimination. Yeah. So what did your husband say when you're like, you know, this guy wants to pay me 200 bucks? Oh, he was always. He was all. He was 100%. He was like, 200 bucks. It's two minutes. Like, it's just go for it. Yeah. So it didn't like I mean, groceries for your family.

00:15:25:15 - 00:15:42:13 Unknown Like I'm like, that's amazing. For two minutes, girl. I took me all week to make that. Took a million bucks, you know, and yeah, not used to it. And that was at the beginning, right. 200 bucks for 200 minutes. I'm sure. Now you probably charge way more for two minutes, right. Or like, at the minimum, it's hundred, you know, so it's like, whoa.

00:15:42:14 - 00:16:03:18 Unknown You started off strong there I did I really did I was proud of that. Yeah. And then how did so was that like, is that what ignited the fire. Were like, maybe I can do more. Yeah. About that. Yes and no. Like obviously I was like that was amazing. And that was a one off thing. But it kept posting sexy pictures and then people were hitting me up on snap.

00:16:03:19 - 00:16:22:00 Unknown Okay. And that's where I first started, like really selling content. I didn't do the like subscription thing, just like people like one off situations. And then it became like we'd pay our full rent, like by selling content on Snapchat. And I was like, was that like, as soon as you started, it was like, how long did it take?

00:16:22:02 - 00:16:44:18 Unknown Years. Okay. Because then I went like hardcore back into my last year of teaching. I didn't do anything with social media at all. I kind of like stopped doing it. So you start. Okay, so you were a teacher then you did social media and you went back to teaching. I, I stayed teaching the whole time. But like my last, my five years at the school with the aggressive students, like we hit the social media hard and my husband ran it and like, we were like going all in on it.

00:16:44:18 - 00:17:01:22 Unknown And then when I switched schools, he started his own business. And then I was like, I'm like, done with this. And that's when I took kind of like a year off, okay. And then after that, that's when I was like finally put in my, my time as a teacher. And I was like, I'm done. Yeah. And that's when I went in.

00:17:02:01 - 00:17:19:23 Unknown That's crazy. That's when you jumped. That's in the jump. Yeah. And you started at a good time. I think you started in 2019. I did. That's like Covid times, right? Even before Covid. Yeah. Yeah before. Yeah. Yeah. Because that was a great time to start. Yeah I kind of regret not starting at that time. Oh really? Well okay.

00:17:20:00 - 00:17:43:01 Unknown He's been telling me to start before but like took me a year like convincing really. I should do this, babe. Like, you know, let's do it I was pregnant. Oh, my. It's even more of a reason. You're right, you're right. Like, even better. I said that I wouldn't do preggo content because. Because I was like, I didn't do it with the first, and then the second is going to be like, why'd you do it with your belly?

00:17:43:02 - 00:18:03:21 Unknown You know, like, why do you need to know who who's in their true? Because people ask me for pregnant content and I'm like, dang, I wish I took more pregnant content. Really? Yeah, I was like, I was a fetish. It's definitely niche, but a lot of people like that. Yeah, we did. We did a scene with a pregnant girl and it's like a top seller.

00:18:03:22 - 00:18:19:13 Unknown Really? Yeah. That is. And I was like, I'm not even pregnant in it. And like, it's really good. Yeah. No, I don't think I feel like that's my boundary. Like I don't think I would be able to do it like, I did feel cute when I was pregnant, because luckily I was one of those people that would lose a bunch of weight when they were pregnant.

00:18:19:13 - 00:18:42:03 Unknown And you couldn't tell that I was up until like six and a half months. Yeah, like I had to stick my stomach out in pictures because I'm like, look, pregnant. I want, I want that belly, like, you know, put my hand on my belly and now I just have a belly, but with no baby and that. What was the first your first, like, big purchase when you started making a lot of money?

00:18:42:05 - 00:19:03:12 Unknown My first big purchase was I got a Mercedes convertible. I really wanted, like, you know, that, like childhood, like Barbie car convertible. Like, I was like, I want that so bad. And I thought I wanted, like, the Range Rover convertible, but they don't make those anymore. I didn't even know they made those. It was like, back in the, like, back in the day, but it was like a cute SUV, like the Barbie Jeep, but not like.

00:19:03:16 - 00:19:28:17 Unknown But no, I couldn't. So I got a Mercedes convertible. I lived it, but it is pretty small with children. Yeah. No, absolutely. Plus you got four. We'll get to that. We'll get to that. So your husband is very supportive of what you do. Did how did people feel about that, about him being supportive? You know, a lot of people are like, that's incredible because a lot of women don't get that.

00:19:28:21 - 00:19:47:21 Unknown And like, are like, man, I wish I had that. Even, like, we run a dog rescue a nonprofit and even, like, women come up to me and they're like, my husband doesn't even support me, like participating like, or helping save dogs. Really. Like, wow. Really. Like he is supportive. I'm like, I got some wild idea. He's like, great, let's do it.

00:19:48:01 - 00:20:06:16 Unknown Like even a dog rescue, which costs us a lot of money, time, energy. Like there's no like, obviously you're saving lives, but like, there's no like, money making happening there. It's costing us like even that. He's, like, supportive in all ends. But at least you feel like you're giving back, right? Because like, you are making money and it's like, how can I give back?

00:20:06:17 - 00:20:27:05 Unknown Yeah, it's a nonprofit. It is a nonprofit. We have nonprofit status. Yeah. It's amazing. You have an ECG for it. Yeah. Do you want to just. Yeah. Minnie's mutts like Minnie Mouse. Minnie's mutts put seven to me and I'll put in the description. Okay. Perfect. And do you feel like your relationship has gotten stronger since you started doing this?

00:20:27:05 - 00:20:50:13 Unknown Or has there been some times where it was like, okay, you know, it's causing some friction? Yeah, I definitely think it's gotten stronger because you have to have great communication to be able to like not only be do OnlyFans, but obviously I do full porn now. And so like you have to be able to have communication. There's been some like moments where I'm like trying to figure out like, what do I communicate?

00:20:50:13 - 00:21:08:11 Unknown And like, you think that you have boundaries, figure it out, and then you get on set or whatever, and you're like, discuss this one. Or like, hey, babe, or like you're like, oh, I discussed this specific thing, but like, this is a little different in like a gray area, which you don't like, fully realize until like you're in there.

00:21:08:11 - 00:21:26:23 Unknown And so like there's some moments where I'm like, oh, oh, like this. And when you're like fully on set and like, if he's busy and like, like, what do I do? What do you do? Like, but sometimes you got to just make the decision, I guess, like, you know, I think you would be okay with this if you can't reach him, you kind of have to, like, make a decision on the right, which I have, I have done.

00:21:26:23 - 00:21:46:00 Unknown And he's always been supportive. But there's been like moments of like kind of working through that. And then like I like I said, I grew up religious, so I have my own, like things that come up where I'm like, oh, like, and what I this is what I do really wrong. And then like, no, like religious made me believe I am wrong and like, I'm not doing anything that actually hurts anybody.

00:21:46:01 - 00:22:06:17 Unknown Everything's 100% consensual, tested like everything. So like not not actually doing anything wrong. So like I still have to like, work through that. I think we all do. I have a little I have a little segment on faith, because I know you do talk about growing up religious. Were there any like, do you guys have any specific boundaries that you would never do?

00:22:06:17 - 00:22:28:13 Unknown I was looking at your Q&A yesterday. Yeah. And I saw the boy, boy, girl. Is that like a boundary that you have with your husband that he doesn't want you to cross or. No, he's totally game for me to do whatever I want. Okay, cool. But my thing is, like, I only shoot what I'm ready for, okay? And I literally just started Boy Girl a year ago in September, so I'm like really deep or new.

00:22:28:13 - 00:22:55:09 Unknown I just shot mainstream for the first time. It literally dropped two weeks ago on Bradley. Thank you. Yeah. Grassroots. Amazing. Yeah, it was incredible. So I was just like, I need you guys to always remember that I do everything at my pace. When I started my OnlyFans in 2019, I didn't show a titty really zero nudity. It's almost just it was just like bikinis and like, sexually, like it was really hot, but it was just like, I've always done it at my pace.

00:22:55:09 - 00:23:11:02 Unknown And if I'm not there, it's not happening. Yeah. That's good. And I was like, the thing too, that I was tell people in this industry is that once you do like, I feel like I did my first somersault in September, did my first boy girl. And they're like, wins the backflip. Like they're always ready for the they want.

00:23:11:03 - 00:23:26:16 Unknown Right. You know, push you into the next thing. And so that's why you got to stretch it as long as you can to monetize that part. Because if you go all in then that's it. Yeah. Because I don't know if you know, but it's just us when we do our content. Right. And like our boundary was, it stays between us.

00:23:26:17 - 00:23:45:23 Unknown I would not do with any other men or whatever. Like that's what we said. But then we did a scene for browsers, just us. Right? It was, it was, it was homemade, like we filmed it and everything because we didn't feel comfortable 100%. But it's like then and I even told him I'm like, if I do a boy girl scene with somebody else, game over.

00:23:46:00 - 00:24:01:19 Unknown Yeah, they're not going to want anything else. Right? So I get what you mean about that. Also, we monetize your face like we weren't showing her face at first, so we took our time to monetize that instead of just saying, hey, here's my face. Yes, I had like a die hard fan and he's like, show me your face.

00:24:01:19 - 00:24:17:03 Unknown And I was we were talking about it and I'm like, I'm going to do it. Eventually. I'm going to do it eventually. I'm like, hey, this guy like, I know him. He's been on my page for like the first one. So I'm like, if you really want to see my face here, I send a selfie fully clothed, maybe a little bit of cleavage for 200 bucks.

00:24:17:03 - 00:24:35:10 Unknown One picture. And he bought his. Extended me another. I'm like another $200. That's incredible. That's that's what I'm saying. Like, you got to slowly do it at what you're comfortable with. That's what I. I'm all for that. But the fans, they just want more. I know more and more. And you're like, dude, give me a freaking break. Yeah, right.

00:24:35:11 - 00:24:53:22 Unknown It has to be at your comfort level. I saw I saw on Reddit recently and there was a I don't go and read it. Yeah, but really, you just said you don't read it. Don't go on like at Google Alerts for my name because of being in the media. So I'm like trying to like there'll be articles that came out about me and I'm like, where did that come from?

00:24:53:23 - 00:25:10:12 Unknown Yeah. So I saw like a Reddit pop up and it was like what porn stars like didn't make it before. Like they what whose career is going to fizzle out. And my name was listed because they were like, because she won't do anal. Oh my God. It's like I never said I would never. Yeah, but I'm not like I'm, I'm not.

00:25:10:13 - 00:25:29:19 Unknown Yeah. It's. No. And if it could forever stay. No. Or that could change. But like it's not happening. I mean we've done like anal on the hub and they do so good. I know with my husband. Yeah. But they're like but we want somebody else. Yeah we want, we want to dress that would that would, that would be wild.

00:25:29:20 - 00:25:48:20 Unknown I did see Angela White say though that like her behind door, her back door, she's out like spreads more than her front. And I was like, oh geez, I don't know. No, I don't know. And you got like her own hair. Like, you got to prepare for that shit. You can't eat for like three days or something. No.

00:25:48:20 - 00:26:15:10 Unknown That's real. I love to eat. So literally, you want me to fast for this? Fuck no please no I'm good Bleep that up. All right. So you have four kids. Yes. What's it like being Courtney Talia online and then being mommy Talia. It's like a trying to like mesh like forever being like me. And I go by my biological name and my stage name are the same.

00:26:15:11 - 00:26:33:18 Unknown Yeah. I feel like I'm very similar in both environments. Obviously I'm not like, sexy, but when the Doctor Phil crew came to my house, they came to your house? Yeah, okay. There's segments in my house if you watch that. I think they do B-roll and stuff, and then you talk to you before, and then you go on the stage.

00:26:33:19 - 00:26:51:20 Unknown Weren't you on his stage? I was on his stage. But they came to my house a couple weeks before, and I feel the whole, like, in-house segment. Oh, okay. Yeah. Kids home when that happened. There is a part with them in it. Walking to the beach. Okay, okay. Yeah. But were they home at that particular I think they were home that day.

00:26:51:22 - 00:27:14:17 Unknown Yeah. That's but they were like, can you put on like mom clothes? And I was like, babe, I wear sports bra and leggings everywhere. Like my kids know, like I know the grocery store like that. Like that is my Gaia attire. Yeah. And there are nude photos of me in our living room. Wall stuff? Yes. And they're massive post size photos, and they're like, they're beautiful.

00:27:14:17 - 00:27:30:03 Unknown I'm in a bathtub. They're like rose petals. My husband loved them so much, he wanted them blown up on the wall. That's awesome. And so, like, I honestly forget that they're there and like, they'll have like, friends come over and I'm like, oh yeah, oh, yeah, mom's naked on the wall.

00:27:30:05 - 00:27:52:08 Unknown Okay. But like, all of their friends know. Okay, I was going to say, do your kids know? They do. Okay, I don't know. I don't like I don't know if I can ask this if how old they are. 13, 14, 23 and 25. I beg your pardon? Yeah. Okay. I did not birth the older two. Okay. My husband and I've been together for going on 15 years, so like you're 25.

00:27:52:09 - 00:28:12:11 Unknown How is that possible? Right. 13 and 14 are mine. Wow. They know like, because I've been in the news so much. Like if you even Google my name, even under a restricted computer, which they do at school, you can still get my TMZ articles that says like Courtney, Talia, OnlyFans. And so they were like, mom, is it true you're on OnlyFans?

00:28:12:11 - 00:28:33:14 Unknown And I was like, yeah, so are a lot of people. It's just that I'm famous for it. Yeah, yeah, I'm actually making money. Making money, baby. You like the Disney annual passes, baby? You're like those squishies, right? No. For real, that's real. So yeah, they know. Like, do I tell them, like, exactly what I do? Of course not.

00:28:33:17 - 00:28:50:12 Unknown But I also didn't tell them when I was getting my ass beat by my students at school, got my hair ripped out. So, like, yeah, everything. Like nobody actually wants to know what their parents do for work. Boring, right? Yeah. I told you, my little my little story there. Do you ever worry about public judgment affecting your children?

00:28:50:12 - 00:29:11:01 Unknown I do, in certain settings because, like, I don't 100% know. Who knows and who doesn't. And so, like, there's communities that my kids are super involved in that I'm like, and I'm super involved in as well, that I'm like, do they know and like just don't care. And they're like, we love her. She's so sweet. She's great. Oh do they not know?

00:29:11:02 - 00:29:27:11 Unknown And we're going to we're just waiting for a rude awakening. I have no idea. I just, I just like when I'm out and somebody looks like they know. Like you can tell. It's like everyone knows. You know what I mean? When I'm just like. But you can tell when the people know and they like, double take or like.

00:29:27:12 - 00:29:44:21 Unknown Yeah, well, see, at a point our Facebook like for you to get like the blue checkmark on Facebook, you need to have your real name. Yeah. Okay. So we had my real name for a hot minute and I was like, you need to turn. You got to figure out how to get that blue checkmark without my name because you read my real name.

00:29:44:21 - 00:30:05:02 Unknown And then the first thing that pops up is Lexus star Facebook. And I'm like, God damn, you know what I mean? Yeah, but I mean, you you went with your. I went with it. Want to go with it? Why? Branding purposes. Yeah, it does sound like a porn name to Courtney Tilly, right? It's like it solid. Yeah. That's good.

00:30:05:04 - 00:30:24:03 Unknown I actually went by Courtney Lynn when I was a teacher so that they couldn't find me. And then I was honestly so frustrated to have to even go by, like, that's my middle name. So I've always gone by my name, but it was so annoyed that I had to use my middle name. I was like, I work hard, I want people to know.

00:30:24:04 - 00:30:41:00 Unknown Yeah. And so I was just like branding purposes. And then the media came out and I was like, that's it, I like that. Yeah, I like that. You're you're ballsy. You know it. Yeah. I have a hard time. That's what I'm trying to teach you to sometimes. Let's not be kidding. I have a hard time owning it. That's like a thing that I'm working on.

00:30:41:01 - 00:31:04:23 Unknown I went, but I just feel like people have this idea of us sometimes, you know? And there's some people that you just can't change their mind. So it's like, I don't even want to have to explain or, like, I don't care to explain. I feel like the people that I speak to, especially like where I live, like I feel like they should know just because, like, we're friends and I'm like, but why do they need to know?

00:31:05:00 - 00:31:26:11 Unknown Right? You know what I mean? It doesn't really change. Like, you like good person 100%, but I guess it's just to like, make things like easier. Like when, when when they open Instagram like, fuck, you know, am I going to pop up, you know, or like or like, let's say him? He added the neighbor. And I'm like, what does I g so I can block on mine?

00:31:26:11 - 00:31:44:23 Unknown Because if, if you, if somebody follows him and he follows me like I'm going to be recommended suggested. So I said, no, screw that shit. As soon as I know someone's IG, I block them on my my my work IG and my pod IG because I don't want to be popping out over there. Yeah, no, I really I really, really get that.

00:31:44:23 - 00:32:03:23 Unknown Yeah. But yeah, I'm just trying to I work through that too, because it's like it is like a fear. And the thing is, is that people think if you do porn, that you're automatically a monster that can't be around children. Yeah. And I'm like, that has nothing. There's no there's no relation. Yes. 100%. And I'm like, I can be a great mom.

00:32:04:00 - 00:32:20:12 Unknown My kids have an incredible life. Yeah. The other thing we get a lot is your kids are going to get bullied. I got bullied and my parents weren't porn stars. And nowadays, I mean, you cannot protect your kid from being bullied. No, you look for everything. You just gotta make your kid tough, you know? That's what you got to do as a parent.

00:32:20:13 - 00:32:36:00 Unknown Like that's my job. Like, I have one that's a bit more sensitive. So be telling me. And I'm like, you didn't stand up for yourself. I know I have one, too. Let's go. And the little one who's like a terrorist, you know, she's like, I'm like, stand up for her, you know, do something. Yeah, but no, I know, I know what you mean.

00:32:36:01 - 00:32:57:12 Unknown We live in a in a time where everybody is just mean. Everybody's on the internet. Everybody just. It's just hateful. I know, you know, like, why are you coming at me for what I do and not teaching your kid not to be a bully? Exactly. That's the real issue here. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so you talk about the religion and your faith.

00:32:57:14 - 00:33:21:02 Unknown Did. We talked a little bit, a little. We talked about it a little. Goddamn it. So we spokesman for a little bit. Yeah, but how do you deal with that. Because I, I can't, I can't say that I'm like, super religious, but I, I have a lot of faith in me. And in the morning I pray at night I pray during the day, like I just I speak to God constantly.

00:33:21:03 - 00:33:39:05 Unknown Yeah. Do you ever feel like I, I'm just like, man, I don't know if this is okay, what I'm doing. You know what I mean? In his eyes. Yeah. So I, I've done so much work around this and I continue to I actually feel like there's a difference between God and religion. I feel like God 100% approves what I do.

00:33:39:07 - 00:33:58:13 Unknown I feel like we were meant to have pleasure. Like we have 8000 nerve endings in your clit, which is more than anywhere else on the body and anywhere else on anybody else's body. Like if you made us like, why do I have that much pleasure there? Like, I feel like you made me to have that, but I feel like it's actually religion that was made us to feel shameful.

00:33:58:14 - 00:34:15:12 Unknown Very true. And not actually God. I feel like I'm actually helping to liberate people, to work through shame and guilt, to like, I love the helping women to feel confident and sexy and like, go after what they want. Whether not everyone wants to do porn, not everyone wants to do only fans. But even if you're confident in clothes or a bikini, like that's so important.

00:34:15:13 - 00:34:32:18 Unknown Yeah. Yeah, that's that's that's that's a good way of seeing it. Yeah. Right. Baby, I need to work through that. Yeah. You know what? I don't know if when you grew up, but, like, there used to be this show on TLC called the Duggars. Did you ever watch the Duggars? Its weight, the Duggars. Is that what the the the Netflix Stones guy?

00:34:32:19 - 00:34:53:21 Unknown The. Let me switch it up 19 Kids and Counting was the name of the show on TLC. Okay, yes, I knew that. I was like, I grew up watching this show and they were like super, super like very. I don't even service Christian. Yes, yes. Well, let me show two of their kids are in jail 100%. So there's a show.

00:34:53:22 - 00:35:10:23 Unknown I was like getting ready to do some journaling. Actually. I'm like working through some shame. I was like, oh, like chat about myself. And I was like, asked chat. I was like, I need a show to watch to, like, kind of like journal. And I honestly was just like, I want a documentary. And it like gave me like rock climbing.

00:35:10:23 - 00:35:29:19 Unknown And I was like, that actually freaks me out of a fear of heights. I'm just like, that is not it for me. And then like, threw out some other things, I was like, no. And I said, how about like celebrity drama? Yeah. And it pumped out this like show about like the Duggars about like talking about their like about like them coming out, not them coming out because they would never be honest.

00:35:29:19 - 00:35:47:20 Unknown But like about people that have like worked with them about the truth of like that religion. And I turned it on and I was like, oh my God, this was so healing for me to see how crazy it was. Like as an adult now, and the things that they did and the way that they tore women down to be the perfect victim.

00:35:47:22 - 00:36:06:12 Unknown And I was like, that's exactly what they did to me. They, like, tried to tear me down to be their perfect next victim. Yeah. And I was like, nah, we're not doing that. No, man, that's wild. The Duggars, yeah, I remember, I knew it by 19 Kids and counting and the other day, like I opened up one of them is for child.

00:36:06:16 - 00:36:25:22 Unknown Yeah. And then, then the other brother and they're just, they're like supporting them. And that's how they do it. While like, men are in charge and the women can't even, like, raise a concern that like, something's been done to them because, like, you have to go up the chain of command, which is to men. Yeah. And the men are all protecting each other.

00:36:25:23 - 00:36:51:05 Unknown That's wild. That is. It was like, actually so healing for me that I was like, oh, I knew I want to see that documentary. Yeah. Prime. Some prime. Okay, I'm going to ask you a few rapid fire questions. Perfect. Okay. What's your biggest pet peeve? Chewing gum. Loud. Okay. Favorite curse word? Fuck yeah. Keep that out. What's your worst habit?

00:36:51:10 - 00:37:15:08 Unknown Being messy. Yeah. Oh. Are you. Yeah. My hair falls out. I shed like a dog. It's like just everywhere. I'm like our poor Airbnb. Like, I'm like, I can't find stuff, like, just toss and stuff. That's funny. What's the last Evie show you binged? Last night, I watched the Tyra Banks top model show. No, no, not not like the actual one, but like the, like, after document document.

00:37:15:12 - 00:37:30:19 Unknown I'm on a documentary binge right now. Are they talking crap about tire bikes? Is that the one where they're or it's not? She's on the show. So it's not just like talking shit about her, but it's like bringing the like issues to life, which like when you watched it back, I don't know if you watched it back then.

00:37:30:19 - 00:37:48:23 Unknown I watch it like many years ago, but when you watch it now, 25 years later, you're like, oh, that was pretty awful. Yeah. No, 1,000%. Yeah. I remember one girl had like, hair to like, the floor shake. No, you needed to cut it to here. Yeah, I would have walked off like I said, for me, if I. And she's crying and crying and crying and it's like, well, if you don't want to do it, just leave.

00:37:49:00 - 00:38:07:15 Unknown Yeah. But they were like, I really want to be like the cover girl. I want to be a Next Top model. So like, they like, literally made them like go to the dentist. And this girl had to get her gap closed. That's why it was crazy. Yeah. That's so crazy. Okay, now we talked about that. There's a few questions that how we are on time.

00:38:07:21 - 00:38:36:13 Unknown You're at 38. Wow. And we got to do. Yes yes yes yes yes. Okay. So, I have a few questions to ask you before we go. Have you accidentally sent something to the wrong person, like a family member or a friend? What is my worst fear? No words. It's the worst. And like, you're doing so many things at once that, like, you accidentally like, send things like.

00:38:36:16 - 00:38:57:11 Unknown And you're like. You're like. Luckily there's that uncensored now, but back then you just have to, like, send a million things and be like, don't scroll what they will throw up, obviously. Okay. So yes, like I told you, I was looking at your Q&A yesterday, which was really funny. I saw that you said you have a size 11ft.

00:38:57:12 - 00:39:18:04 Unknown Yes, I have massive feet in hands. Oh, wow. Okay. So you like your feet? Guy? Must be, like, loving that, right? My, they love my feet. Yeah I have yeah. Let me see. Look at this. I have massive hands just like. Oh, and I have long hands. Yeah. No, I felt like big extremities. Like solid foundation right here.

00:39:18:06 - 00:39:40:00 Unknown I wore a nine in third grade, so, like, I just, like, I was a seven. I'm a nine now, but. Yeah. Yeah. So like, you make, like, everybody's dick look small, I really do. I actually did a scene recently and he was like, can you take your feet and make it make my dick go in? And I was able to do it.

00:39:40:01 - 00:40:03:11 Unknown Oh wow. Big feet. You have to. Actually it's more about to look like it though when you just look like. Yeah, but that's actually you need ankle strength to be able to put a dick. Yeah. It's all technique. It's a very it is very technique. Yeah I love it. Okay. And my last question to you why are you and Karen Lee on each other's no list?

00:40:03:12 - 00:40:23:19 Unknown I'm so glad we finally get to talk about this, because I feel like I answered this question on my Q&A at every day, and then they still DM me on every platform. They're like, why not? Currently, Karen Lee and my husband play soccer together. Okay, only known Kieran Lee as a soccer player for years, went to his family's house like family friends.

00:40:23:19 - 00:40:44:03 Unknown And that's so he's like my husband's buddy. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's why he's on the no list. We joke about it, we have a good time. I actually went to his house to. We were shooting with the same girl. He came with her first. I was shooting with her. Second, I got his sloppy seconds and I was like, you know, it'd be so funny.

00:40:44:04 - 00:41:05:03 Unknown Karen is if we take a photo together and, like, make the internet believe. What a mistake. Really, like four years ago. And people will still bring up the picture and they're like, but when does the scene drop? That is so like, we're on great terms. It's not like a factual no. Like I hate him like buddies. And I'm just like, I can't like come on.

00:41:05:06 - 00:41:24:19 Unknown I think it's having. No. But they're like, people are like, yeah, but you're in the industry. You have to shoot with who we want. And I'm like, that's not how it works. So how is guys so and so? I always say that you're on my list. And he always says I never made his yes list. So it's it's a playful baby because I do see it come on his stories.

00:41:24:20 - 00:41:42:08 Unknown And then I've seen it a few times on yours. So I just thought we would, you know, clear the air. Get it out there. It's not happening yet. On her terms, on her time. But it will break the internet when it does, right? It would break the internet. I want to have Karen Lee. I want to hear his side of the story about that.

00:41:42:10 - 00:41:57:20 Unknown It's time for Karen leaves to come on and let's hear his side. I told him he had posted a story saying, which pod should I go? And I'm like mine. And then he put the crying face. I'm like, I'm serious. Like, come on. He put like something like, who should I shoot with? And he said, I was like the top three names.

00:41:57:20 - 00:42:20:13 Unknown And he's like, I'm blocking you. I'm so tired of seeing your name. That's. Thank you so much for being on the show. This was great. Let our followers know where they can find you. I'm Courtney Talia on all the platforms. So nice and easy. Nice and simple. Give her guys a follow. Thanks for watching. Don't forget to like and subscribe and we'll see you guys next week.

00:42:20:15 - 00:42:25:14 Unknown Try. All right. That was great. Thank.

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